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merell900 · 05-08-2011, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craig

Sell you a nice caged 328i? :P

shimmy you should get a 328

you ´ll have more fun than with the CSL at the ring.
The CSL for SPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E5byTCLai4

merell900 · 05-08-2011, 10:42 AM

[quote=glendog74;96546]+1

It's not like the CSL is worth £60k anymore and you can definitely mitigate risk by only driving during the closed private track days which are much safer due to lack of idiots on track!

Touristenfahrer for me is much safer than track days.The people allow you to pass(pull right), and check mirrows.
I was at destinations and lots of then pull left

, didn´t allow you to pass.They drive like if it was a race.

Never again at the ring.

**glendog74** · 05-08-2011, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merell900

Touristenfahrer for me is much safer than track days.The people allow you to pass(pull right), and check mirrows.

It's not like that on any TF day i have done of late!

**shimmy** · 21-08-2011, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawsy

Shim, my 8.10 was a quick lap, but due to my inexperience there, there were parts where I backed off when I shouldnt have, backed off where in Duncs car I didnt have to. I got held up in bits of traffic, had soft springs bottoming out on inner arches and passenger too.

I know it seems like racing excuses, but I know my limits, I know the CSL's limits, and I was nowhere near either of them. It was my 15th lap of the place so I wasnt driving at near full tilt.

I seriously think that I would hit a 7.50 btg, under 8 quite easily in a well set-up CSL on my next visit.y?

Just chatting to AndrewM, prev owner of Duncs CsL and he said the best lap with trace in his CSL was 7m36s BTG.

The Gorilla · 21-08-2011, 08:37 PM

Hi,

7.36 in a standard [engine] CSL ? at the
Ring- BTG ?

Loaded CSL with SuperCharger is 7.22 BTG.

BMW PR department missed an oppurtunity there
then !!!!

Regards,

The Gorilla.

**shimmy** · 21-08-2011, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gorilla

Hi,

7.36 in a standard [engine] CSL ? at the
Ring- BTG ?

Loaded CSL with SuperCharger is 7.22 BTG.

BMW PR department missed an oppurtunity there
then !!!!

Regards,

The Gorilla.

loaded lap is full lap like official 7m 52s lap,

Curly · 21-08-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy

Just chatting to AndrewM, prev owner of Duncs CsL and he said the best lap with trace in his CSL was 7m36s BTG.

Pity there was no vid of the lap

**shimmy** · 21-08-2011, 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curly

Pity there was no vid of the lap

Gaute prob has some of the same sort of times.

am I right in saying BTG times you are not up to speed at the Bridge start point like on full lap, so it would be wrong to deduct exact time GTB from full lap?

**AlexGTT** · 21-08-2011, 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy

Gaute prob has some of the same sort of times.

am I right in saying BTG times you are not up to speed at the Bridge start point like on full lap, so it would be wrong to deduct exact time GTB from full lap?

Correct Shim.

The Gorilla · 22-08-2011, 10:34 AM

Hi,

Still not following this ?

Nordschleife is 20.8 km as used
for the RCN events.

For Tourists BTG its 19.1 KM.

Quote-

''On a tourist lap it's impossible to complete a whole lap without stopping to queue for the gates at 'C'. So the BTG method is to time your laps in a point-to-point style from the bridge to the gantry. On a trackday this is also useful, as you don't have to complete 3 whole laps (63km) to get one lap time. To recap: after exiting the carpark at 'C' on the map above, drive under the Bridge (Antoniusbuche) at 'B'. From here it's 19.1km to the Gantry (currently carrying Audi sponsorship) at point 'A'. Easy!''

Full 'Northloop'' Lap is I believe 22.8km.

So at 7.36, the std CSL time quoted BTG, its equall to around
38.5 secs a km on the 'shorter lap'. [19.1km] BTG.

The Loaded CSL Lap which was 7.22 over the
full Northloop, 22.8km is approx 31.5 secs a KM.

So the standard CSL quoted, in being 7 secs a KM slower
than the Loaded CSL on these numbers, is
approx 8.45 secs for the full Northloop lap 22.8km] which
is about 50 secs slower than the Official
time.

Is that what is being said here ?

Regards,

The Gorilla.

05-08-2011, 10:42 AM	#42
merell900 S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 53 Casino cash: $2128	[quote=glendog74;96546]+1 It's not like the CSL is worth £60k anymore and you can definitely mitigate risk by only driving during the closed private track days which are much safer due to lack of idiots on track! Touristenfahrer for me is much safer than track days.The people allow you to pass(pull right), and check mirrows. I was at destinations and lots of then pull left , didn´t allow you to pass.They drive like if it was a race. Never again at the ring.

21-08-2011, 08:37 PM	#45
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, 7.36 in a standard [engine] CSL ? at the Ring- BTG ? Loaded CSL with SuperCharger is 7.22 BTG. BMW PR department missed an oppurtunity there then !!!! Regards, The Gorilla.

22-08-2011, 10:34 AM	#50
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, Still not following this ? Nordschleife is 20.8 km as used for the RCN events. For Tourists BTG its 19.1 KM. Quote- ''On a tourist lap it's impossible to complete a whole lap without stopping to queue for the gates at 'C'. So the BTG method is to time your laps in a point-to-point style from the bridge to the gantry. On a trackday this is also useful, as you don't have to complete 3 whole laps (63km) to get one lap time. To recap: after exiting the carpark at 'C' on the map above, drive under the Bridge (Antoniusbuche) at 'B'. From here it's 19.1km to the Gantry (currently carrying Audi sponsorship) at point 'A'. Easy!'' Full 'Northloop'' Lap is I believe 22.8km. So at 7.36, the std CSL time quoted BTG, its equall to around 38.5 secs a km on the 'shorter lap'. [19.1km] BTG. The Loaded CSL Lap which was 7.22 over the full Northloop, 22.8km is approx 31.5 secs a KM. So the standard CSL quoted, in being 7 secs a KM slower than the Loaded CSL on these numbers, is approx 8.45 secs for the full Northloop lap 22.8km] which is about 50 secs slower than the Official time. Is that what is being said here ? Regards, The Gorilla.