Vredestein Tyres

[SIEN]

Originally Posted by jibm

not sure if i trust that test...

conti's above PS2

not on any of my m3's

It wasn't just that test, there's quite a few others I've read that show the same, albeit not with them winning, but ranked very highly among the more expensive tyres.

But as Shimmy said, if your going for a budget winter option might as well go for the Falkens.

[s.mac]

• 1st Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta
• 2nd Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
• 3rd Pirelli P Zero Nero
• 3rd Continental Sport Contact 3
• 5th Michelin Pilot Sport 2
• 6th Dunlop SP Sportmaxx
• 7th Hankook Ventus S1 Evo
• 8th Toyo Proxes T1 R

Vredestein are the only ones I haven't had on one of my cars so I cant comment on them, the others I would put in this order

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
Dunlop SP Sportmaxx
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Continental Sport Contact 3
Hankook Ventus S1 Evo
Michelin Pilot Sport 2
Toyo Proxes T1 R

only IMO

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by s.mac

• 1st Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta
• 2nd Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
• 3rd Pirelli P Zero Nero
• 3rd Continental Sport Contact 3
• 5th Michelin Pilot Sport 2
• 6th Dunlop SP Sportmaxx
• 7th Hankook Ventus S1 Evo
• 8th Toyo Proxes T1 R

Vredestein are the only ones I haven't had on one of my cars so I cant comment on them, the others I would put in this order

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
Dunlop SP Sportmaxx
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Continental Sport Contact 3
Hankook Ventus S1 Evo
Michelin Pilot Sport 2
Toyo Proxes T1 R

only IMO

yes but what are you judging them on, useless table without knowing!!!


price, wear rate, cold grip, warm grip, style, availability, cheese , colour, quality of blowjob from salesman??

[s.mac]

yes but what are you judging them on, useless table without knowing!!!

agreed

I based it on

wear rate, cold grip, warm grip,

wet and dry conditions

cheese , colour, quality of blowjob from salesman??

I'm a bloke's bloke so that last bit doesn't come into my thought process, unless it was a sales woman with massive tits and wears glasses.....

nor price

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by s.mac

I'm a bloke's bloke so that last bit doesn't come into my thought process, unless it was a sales woman with massive tits and wears glasses.....

Hmm, interesting - i rather like them too...

[shane@mbtech]

Having just purchased a normal m3 with these already fitted, they seem ok to be fair in terms of grip. I much prefer the falkens though. The noise the sessanta made on the road is shocking even compared to the falkens. Plus the trad pattern looks poor on the sessanta. More all round tyre than performance tyre.

[Nords]

Originally Posted by s.mac

• 1st Vredestein Ultrac Sessanta
• 2nd Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
• 3rd Pirelli P Zero Nero
• 3rd Continental Sport Contact 3
• 5th Michelin Pilot Sport 2
• 6th Dunlop SP Sportmaxx
• 7th Hankook Ventus S1 Evo
• 8th Toyo Proxes T1 R

Vredestein are the only ones I haven't had on one of my cars so I cant comment on them, the others I would put in this order

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric
Dunlop SP Sportmaxx
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Continental Sport Contact 3
Hankook Ventus S1 Evo
Michelin Pilot Sport 2
Toyo Proxes T1 R

only IMO

PS2 are the best, I scrimped and put Eagle F1 Asymmetrics on and they are not as good in terms of grip or turn in. I have had the Sportmaxx on a Civic Type R and they really were rubbish.

[s.mac]

PS2 are the best, I scrimped and put Eagle F1 Asymmetrics on and they are not as good in terms of grip or turn in. I have had the Sportmaxx on a Civic Type R and they really were rubbish.

each to their own

I think PS2s are shit in the wet and prefer the goodyears
I have sportmaxx on my F1 cup and think they are a great tyre

[SIEN]

And herein lies the issue with tyres, and more specifically, grip.

If over the winter my car will be used for the odd run out in dry but cold conditions, and on roads (not track) what is the best for my needs...

The reason I sold my last car is because it it didn't feel quick... even though it was very quick. It was civilised and boring on the road. I bought the CSL to get more excitement and drama, which it delivers just sat there.

For me... and I'll probably get flamed for this... I would take a lower grip tyre that looses traction evenly and predictably, than a high grip track tyre that I'll never discover the limits of before I hit silly license shredding speeds. I'm sure if I was on track and going for the last few hundredths then it would be a different story (and with the ability to reach speeds where traction would be limited in a safe environment on high grip tyres).

[s.mac]

then I would say Falkens, Ive never used them but they get good right ups, if you want a winter tyre to get the grip down the Uniroyal wets are another option, they are what they say, a wet tyre and give loads of grip