German speakers - help!

_Nathan_ · 16-01-2013, 03:00 PM

I want a LHD steering rack as converting my car to the way BMW intended, Z4M, CSL\CS, 330i (later model faster than M3) or even normal e46 M3, free translation converts steering rack to Steuerungsständer but nothing found on ebay.de for that, what should I search for?

Thanks.

northernjim · 16-01-2013, 03:28 PM

Steering gear is lenkgetriebe.....

http://www.lenkgetriebe.net/lenkgetriebe-bmw-e46.html

Do you not know anyone at the ring? Schirmer, Raeder or jacos to ask?

_Nathan_ · 16-01-2013, 03:45 PM

Could email Tom I suppose, dunno why I didn't think of that! Want to look on ebay to see what is about and the costs, Z4M rack is faster but I guess a lot rarer.

**shimmy** · 16-01-2013, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

Could email Tom I suppose, dunno why I didn't think of that! Want to look on ebay to see what is about and the costs, Z4M rack is faster but I guess a lot rarer.

Pm Roland on here Nathan, he works/lives Germany so should know.

**alexk** · 16-01-2013, 09:34 PM

Hi Nathan,

Search for Lenkgetriebe.
Jim was right

The Gorilla · 17-01-2013, 10:28 AM

Hi,

Quote - ''I want a LHD steering rack as converting my car to the way BMW intended,''

Not sure I am buying that !!
More to do with S54 slant and of
course some may even argue
'Apex'' sighting !

Not following you on the Z4 Rack though ?

Z3 Rack is 2.7 lock to lock at 54mm per
rev so its about par with the CSL Rack.

Rack from a Z3 1.8 - 2.8 will be the 2.7 Ratio and
will bolt straight in E46 subframe with
correct tie rod spacing.

It also requires an approx 15mm spacer, so you
move the rack up to dial out bump steer,
so even better on a lowered car.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

_Nathan_ · 17-01-2013, 11:05 AM

e92 M3 Rack 12.5:1
Z4M Coupe Rack 12.8:1
Z4M Roadster Rack 13.7:1
330i ZHP, possibly other late 330i Rack 13.7:1
CSL Rack 14.5:1
E46 M3 Rack 15.4:1

Some of the above are apparently variable ratio but not sure exactly which, e92 M3 rack is supposed to be slower in the middle than it is at the extreme ends so not sure if the ratio measurement is done on an average of lock to lock?

Going to use the Merc A Class electric pump I think.

The Gorilla · 17-01-2013, 11:40 AM

Hi,

E92 M3 Rack does not fit.

Z4 M Coupe Rack is slower than
Z3 Rack, apart from the Z4
Manual Rack which is the same
2.7 ratio [fits with the electric head]

Z4 Roadster is Variable I think.

Merc A Class electric pump makes sense.

After using Merc A Class and BMW Mini
the Merc is much less hassle.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

_Nathan_ · 17-01-2013, 12:34 PM

Thanks for the info.

Have you driven an e46 with a faster rack? Impressions if so?

The Gorilla · 17-01-2013, 03:04 PM

Hi,

Nathan- you can go to far so to speak.

I drove an E46 M3 with a 2.4 quick Rack
Conversion by the Swiss Guy [Roland] that did the
Manual 2.2 Quick rack on the E30 M3 for me.

There is almost to much steering 'input' that even
on a Track / Race Car, your always 'correcting',
even on the straights !!!

The E92 M3 Rack has a nice feel to it for a
quick rack, 2.5 ratio, but the rack is approx
60mm longer than the CSL rack, so the tie rod
fulcrum points are not in the same plane, as
the pivot point on the front E46 Wishbones.

I expect that Info is 'Googled' as well !!!

There is an E46 Rack on the 1.8 or 2.0 that
is also a power rack with a quick ratio of
something like 2.8 turns lock to lock so
almost the same as the CSL for a lot less
money.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

16-01-2013, 03:00 PM	#1
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	German speakers - help! I want a LHD steering rack as converting my car to the way BMW intended, Z4M, CSL\CS, 330i (later model faster than M3) or even normal e46 M3, free translation converts steering rack to Steuerungsständer but nothing found on ebay.de for that, what should I search for? Thanks. __________________ Nathan Last edited by _Nathan_; 16-01-2013 at 03:06 PM.

16-01-2013, 03:28 PM	#2
northernjim Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: lancashire Posts: 2,082 Casino cash: $20572	Steering gear is lenkgetriebe..... http://www.lenkgetriebe.net/lenkgetriebe-bmw-e46.html Do you not know anyone at the ring? Schirmer, Raeder or jacos to ask? __________________ Last edited by northernjim; 16-01-2013 at 03:31 PM.

16-01-2013, 03:45 PM	#3
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	Could email Tom I suppose, dunno why I didn't think of that! Want to look on ebay to see what is about and the costs, Z4M rack is faster but I guess a lot rarer. __________________ Nathan

16-01-2013, 09:34 PM	#5
alexk Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,785 Casino cash: $29948	Hi Nathan, Search for Lenkgetriebe. Jim was right __________________ www.clubcsl.com - I am a BMW Motorsport fan ! My youtube channel is here

17-01-2013, 10:28 AM	#6
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, Quote - ''I want a LHD steering rack as converting my car to the way BMW intended,'' Not sure I am buying that !! More to do with S54 slant and of course some may even argue 'Apex'' sighting ! Not following you on the Z4 Rack though ? Z3 Rack is 2.7 lock to lock at 54mm per rev so its about par with the CSL Rack. Rack from a Z3 1.8 - 2.8 will be the 2.7 Ratio and will bolt straight in E46 subframe with correct tie rod spacing. It also requires an approx 15mm spacer, so you move the rack up to dial out bump steer, so even better on a lowered car. Regards, The Gorilla. Last edited by The Gorilla; 17-01-2013 at 10:35 AM. Reason: Add quote

17-01-2013, 11:05 AM	#7
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	e92 M3 Rack 12.5:1 Z4M Coupe Rack 12.8:1 Z4M Roadster Rack 13.7:1 330i ZHP, possibly other late 330i Rack 13.7:1 CSL Rack 14.5:1 E46 M3 Rack 15.4:1 Some of the above are apparently variable ratio but not sure exactly which, e92 M3 rack is supposed to be slower in the middle than it is at the extreme ends so not sure if the ratio measurement is done on an average of lock to lock? Going to use the Merc A Class electric pump I think. __________________ Nathan

17-01-2013, 11:40 AM	#8
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, E92 M3 Rack does not fit. Z4 M Coupe Rack is slower than Z3 Rack, apart from the Z4 Manual Rack which is the same 2.7 ratio [fits with the electric head] Z4 Roadster is Variable I think. Merc A Class electric pump makes sense. After using Merc A Class and BMW Mini the Merc is much less hassle. Regards, The Gorilla.

17-01-2013, 12:34 PM	#9
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	Thanks for the info. Have you driven an e46 with a faster rack? Impressions if so? __________________ Nathan

17-01-2013, 03:04 PM	#10
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, Nathan- you can go to far so to speak. I drove an E46 M3 with a 2.4 quick Rack Conversion by the Swiss Guy [Roland] that did the Manual 2.2 Quick rack on the E30 M3 for me. There is almost to much steering 'input' that even on a Track / Race Car, your always 'correcting', even on the straights !!! The E92 M3 Rack has a nice feel to it for a quick rack, 2.5 ratio, but the rack is approx 60mm longer than the CSL rack, so the tie rod fulcrum points are not in the same plane, as the pivot point on the front E46 Wishbones. I expect that Info is 'Googled' as well !!! There is an E46 Rack on the 1.8 or 2.0 that is also a power rack with a quick ratio of something like 2.8 turns lock to lock so almost the same as the CSL for a lot less money. Regards, The Gorilla.