Question on DS2500 pads

GTAStradale · 26-03-2012, 08:07 PM

Has anyone used DS2500 pads on the front with proper 6pot calipers?

I have read in many threads overhere that they are not suitable for the track, but assume it is related to them being used with the OEM calipers. Due to the OEM pad being quite small in surface comparing to e.g. BMW performance or AP, I am wondering could they cope with heat if used in proper 6pot calipers? For example, if I look at the surface of BMW performance calipers pad, it seems to me the surface is almost doubled. Any guidance is much appreciated!

rstoughy · 26-03-2012, 08:14 PM

I ran them with my AP's as they were fitted upon purchase of the car. They didnt like the heat much though and cracked and fell apart.

Using RS29's now

Pooky · 26-03-2012, 08:26 PM

DS2500 is not a track pad in any application. I've had the displeasure of running them in a variety of cars including on 6pot Alcons with 400mm disc and they overheat and smear themselves all over the disc, leading to massive vibration, every time.

Any amount of track work needs proper pads like Pagid or performance friction.

GTAStradale · 26-03-2012, 08:58 PM

It seems you have already talked me out of it ! Thank you guys.

shane@mbtech · 26-03-2012, 09:14 PM

They are fitted to an Evo I've just sold, if presented with a few hard stops they fade.

I imagine they could last 1 or 2 laps hard pace.

They are nothing more than a fast road pad.

Try rs29 rs19 ds3000 pf01 or Carbotech xp8/10.

All much better for track

thegingerninja · 26-03-2012, 10:42 PM

Used DS2500 since I bought the csl 5 years ago, never had an issue on track ever. They don't like being worn down to below 2 or 3mm though - that's when they can cause issues, but most pads do that. DS 3000 are a race pad that I use in the race car, they are sintered so will probably make your alloys look knackered after a year or so. Pads are very personal choice, what suits some people doesn't suit others. I guess it's a case of try them and make your own informed decision?

**shimmy** · 26-03-2012, 10:49 PM

On road they are perfect.

On track they leave deposits on discs and are not up to the job IMHO.

**CraigMillwardCroft** · 27-03-2012, 03:30 PM

When I ran them on my RS500 with 6 pot floating AP's they never felt that good use to brake 50 yards earlier than when I ran carbon metalic split pads, they also after a few laps looked like someone had been knocking chuncks off the edges.

Tech@PFC · 28-03-2012, 10:19 AM

We have the AP pad shapes in stock in our .01 sprint race compound and our Z-Rated .11 fast road pad.

We're also offering a 10% CSLR members discount so feel free to contact me if you want further information.

Regards,
Charlie

Direct Tel: 01295 221 023
Direct Email: cstaveley@performancefriction.com

DuncanR · 28-03-2012, 09:54 PM

As above, throw 'em out and fit RS29's, then throw them out and fit Endless !

26-03-2012, 08:07 PM	#1
GTAStradale S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 41 Casino cash: $900	Question on DS2500 pads Has anyone used DS2500 pads on the front with proper 6pot calipers? I have read in many threads overhere that they are not suitable for the track, but assume it is related to them being used with the OEM calipers. Due to the OEM pad being quite small in surface comparing to e.g. BMW performance or AP, I am wondering could they cope with heat if used in proper 6pot calipers? For example, if I look at the surface of BMW performance calipers pad, it seems to me the surface is almost doubled. Any guidance is much appreciated! __________________ 2004 M3 CSL

26-03-2012, 08:14 PM	#2
rstoughy S6, Sport On, Traction Off Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 1,946 Casino cash: $25386	I ran them with my AP's as they were fitted upon purchase of the car. They didnt like the heat much though and cracked and fell apart. Using RS29's now __________________ Paul. Ooooft!!! 15yrs in the CSL and still loving it "shine on you crazy diamond"

26-03-2012, 08:58 PM	#4
GTAStradale S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 41 Casino cash: $900	It seems you have already talked me out of it ! Thank you guys. __________________ 2004 M3 CSL

26-03-2012, 10:42 PM	#6
thegingerninja S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cheshire Posts: 370 Casino cash: $4367	Used DS2500 since I bought the csl 5 years ago, never had an issue on track ever. They don't like being worn down to below 2 or 3mm though - that's when they can cause issues, but most pads do that. DS 3000 are a race pad that I use in the race car, they are sintered so will probably make your alloys look knackered after a year or so. Pads are very personal choice, what suits some people doesn't suit others. I guess it's a case of try them and make your own informed decision? __________________ Get out of the fucking middle lane! ...and turn off your sodding fog lights too!

26-03-2012, 10:49 PM	#7
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,646 Casino cash: $43909	On road they are perfect. On track they leave deposits on discs and are not up to the job IMHO. __________________ .

26-03-2012, 08:26 PM	#3
Pooky S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 187 Casino cash: $11992	DS2500 is not a track pad in any application. I've had the displeasure of running them in a variety of cars including on 6pot Alcons with 400mm disc and they overheat and smear themselves all over the disc, leading to massive vibration, every time. Any amount of track work needs proper pads like Pagid or performance friction.

26-03-2012, 09:14 PM	#5
shane@mbtech CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: warrington Posts: 5,419 Casino cash: $19783	They are fitted to an Evo I've just sold, if presented with a few hard stops they fade. I imagine they could last 1 or 2 laps hard pace. They are nothing more than a fast road pad. Try rs29 rs19 ds3000 pf01 or Carbotech xp8/10. All much better for track

27-03-2012, 03:30 PM	#8
CraigMillwardCroft CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Marlow Posts: 3,973 Casino cash: $18153	When I ran them on my RS500 with 6 pot floating AP's they never felt that good use to brake 50 yards earlier than when I ran carbon metalic split pads, they also after a few laps looked like someone had been knocking chuncks off the edges.

28-03-2012, 10:19 AM	#9
Tech@PFC Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 18 Casino cash: $887	Performance Friction Pads We have the AP pad shapes in stock in our .01 sprint race compound and our Z-Rated .11 fast road pad. We're also offering a 10% CSLR members discount so feel free to contact me if you want further information. Regards, Charlie Direct Tel: 01295 221 023 Direct Email: cstaveley@performancefriction.com __________________ Technical Sales Engineer Performance Friction Europe Tel: +44 (0) 1295 221 020 Email: uksales@performancefriction.com http://www.performancefriction.com/ Last edited by Tech@PFC; 28-03-2012 at 03:37 PM.

28-03-2012, 09:54 PM	#10
DuncanR CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Olney, Bucks Posts: 3,735 Casino cash: $9984	As above, throw 'em out and fit RS29's, then throw them out and fit Endless ! __________________ " I use Gleaming Kleen.... for that new car look " I wish I had used - Race Data Systems - Motorsport Data Loggers forgive me Nathan !