CSL Cup race series

[shimmy]

ok, so the rumours are flying around that there is the chance of a CSL series in 2009 as a support series in Dunlop Great and British....racing Fridays 6x2 times a year.

Two classes of CSL stock and then bolt on mods and remap

all cars to be road legal and registered

anybody up for it!

[Bravo73]

Are the cars going to have to be caged?

[shimmy]

no matter what you will need cage, harness, seats, xtinguisher and cut off

the rest will be rules to suit the series


but cages like thorneys dont have to riun the car insides

[Bravo73]

I figured as such.

As much as I would love to do it, I'm out. I can't afford to crash the car that I need to drive to work every day in.

[david]

there are already not much Csl around, might be difficult to run a challenge with only csl....

by memory 270 Csl units were directly oriented by bmw motorsport GmbH to competition versions, but never saw any on a specific challenge.

Some guys are racing with Csl in the Divinol cup un germany, that's about it I think

[E46ACS]

It's odd for a race series to start now for a model that went out of production some years ago (both E46 & CSL).

Race series are there to promote new/current models, not old models.

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by Bravo73

As much as I would love to do it, I'm out. I can't afford to crash the car that I need to drive to work every day in.

Ditto...

[shimmy]

but the difference is that alot of CSL drivers are track day regulars and do want to race at some point.

Alot move onto Porsches and then Porsche Cup cars or E30/E36 racing, but as the value of CSls comes down there is less stopping CSLs being used for racing.

alot of the affordable race series are no current models but older race cars passed down and liek the Dunlop series some are for road legal models.

i think its a good idea as at least we are setting the rules and therefore the costs and competetiveness of the series

[Bravo73]

Off the top of my head, I reckon that the costs (for me) would be something like this:

- Removable Cage, extinguishers etc from Thorney's*: £2500
- 2nd hand Smart Car (as a daily driver): £3000
- 3 Sets of Cups (2 races per set, at a guess): £3000
- Pads & Discs: £1500
- Fuel, registrations etc etc: £2000

So, probably looking at £12k for the first year, and £6.5k for subsequent years. There would also be other costs involved with getting a National Race licence etc etc. (And this obviously doesn't include the potentially v.high costs if you were to get punted off into the armco.)

I'm beginning to warm to the idea but that is still a bit too dear for me at the moment.


How much do you reckon that it would cost you, shimmy?






* I'm presuming that if Thorney is promoting the series then TMS is going to offer a 'CSL Series' preparation service.

[david]

Track days are for fun and pleasure and you dont drive to the limits (well personnaly), race againts Mr X or time is more risks to get car werck playing with the limits, you can damage your car on your own and much more chance to get it junked by a racer... racing is racing and personnaly I can't imagine getting my Csl on a race to risky...

I've raced for 7 years on a volkswagens challenge, okay can't compare a Bmw Csl vs a Volkswagen race car price, but, I've never been a weekend without at least a car comming out with scratches and even worse.. and its a lot of money, whatever you finally race with.

just have a look at a Porsche cup race, how many cars are damaged even before the end of the first lap.

we'll see, but you better have a lot of money undercover to have a season done I would say.