Pad upgrade

**Andyk** · 20-09-2008, 06:31 AM

Sure it's been spoken about a million times but what is the best pad upgrade for fast road use using the standard discs. Looked at the specialists and each one has said something different....so any experiences.

SpineOnABap · 20-09-2008, 06:56 AM

In order of preference from my own experience - Pagid RS14, Pagid RS19 (if you can find them), Ferrodo DS2500
Take your pick, they're all great.
The only things I'd avoid like the plague are anything EBC and Pagid RS29. In my experience they're pretty pretty rubbish.

PS - is it just me who hates the phrase "fast road"

There's no need for it (not having a go at you, Andy

but whoever started it needs to be shot

)

**Andyk** · 20-09-2008, 07:12 AM

[quote
PS - is it just me who hates the phrase "fast road"

There's no need for it (not having a go at you, Andy

but whoever started it needs to be shot

)[/quote]

HeHe..yes you are right....what silly phrase, now you mention it....fast road must surely be a track......

Thanks for advice. Do you get any brake squeal with any of them?

SpineOnABap · 20-09-2008, 07:28 AM

Yes, lots of squeal. That's the trade-off of any high-performance pad. They don't 'like' regular town-style driving, and over a week or two will get noisier to the point of pain

However, if you give them a monstering then it'll shut them up. I do a bedding-in type procedure every couple of weeks to keep them in check

**Andyk** · 20-09-2008, 08:04 AM

OK thanks. So looks like will have to put with a bit of sqeal. Will pop down to Simpsons next week see what they can do.

**Mark CSL** · 20-09-2008, 08:19 AM

andy I use red stuff front and rear and they are great
Value and work well

I have ferodo ds2500 in now and think
The red stuff are just as good for half the money

**Andyk** · 20-09-2008, 08:39 AM

Mark the red stuff certainly seems great value...I like that....against the others. Do they last well and what about squeal with them.

Spineonabap, you don't rate the red stuff then...any reason.

**Mark CSL** · 20-09-2008, 08:46 AM

The red stuff front and rear cost £80 for the standard CSL pads
And £86 for the big brake kit on my CSL
And they dont make any noise they lasted 6 trackdays

but so do the ds2500 that cost £177+vat for the fronts

You do the maths but i like value for money
also the best move for the standard calipers is to fit uprated hoses and castrol racing fluid this makes the standard pads alot better if you ask me

rs32 · 20-09-2008, 09:24 AM

the OEM Textar pads are indeed pretty rubbish - I had the Pagid Blues on the previous M3 and they squealed like mad after while but the braking performance was excellent.

probably going to try the DS2500's when my free BMW set run out or start annoying me too much - the CSL standard setup gives exactly the same problems as the normal M3, too much heat build-up and fade after about 3 seconds use.

Performance Friction pads are supposed to be as good as the Pagid's but without the squeal - so maybe worth a try as an alternative ?

SpineOnABap · 20-09-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark csl

You do the maths but i like value for money

Yeah but you use Lo-Spec calipers so EBC are fine for you

20-09-2008, 06:31 AM	#1
Andyk Driving it like I nicked it Space Invaders Champion! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chepstow Posts: 2,506 Casino cash: $3997	Pad upgrade Sure it's been spoken about a million times but what is the best pad upgrade for fast road use using the standard discs. Looked at the specialists and each one has said something different....so any experiences.

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20-09-2008, 06:56 AM	#2
SpineOnABap S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 561 Casino cash: $5714	In order of preference from my own experience - Pagid RS14, Pagid RS19 (if you can find them), Ferrodo DS2500 Take your pick, they're all great. The only things I'd avoid like the plague are anything EBC and Pagid RS29. In my experience they're pretty pretty rubbish. PS - is it just me who hates the phrase "fast road" There's no need for it (not having a go at you, Andy but whoever started it needs to be shot )

20-09-2008, 07:12 AM	#3
Andyk Driving it like I nicked it Space Invaders Champion! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chepstow Posts: 2,506 Casino cash: $3997	[quote PS - is it just me who hates the phrase "fast road" There's no need for it (not having a go at you, Andy but whoever started it needs to be shot )[/quote] HeHe..yes you are right....what silly phrase, now you mention it....fast road must surely be a track...... Thanks for advice. Do you get any brake squeal with any of them?

20-09-2008, 07:28 AM	#4
SpineOnABap S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: May 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 561 Casino cash: $5714	Yes, lots of squeal. That's the trade-off of any high-performance pad. They don't 'like' regular town-style driving, and over a week or two will get noisier to the point of pain However, if you give them a monstering then it'll shut them up. I do a bedding-in type procedure every couple of weeks to keep them in check

20-09-2008, 08:04 AM	#5
Andyk Driving it like I nicked it Space Invaders Champion! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chepstow Posts: 2,506 Casino cash: $3997	OK thanks. So looks like will have to put with a bit of sqeal. Will pop down to Simpsons next week see what they can do.

20-09-2008, 08:19 AM	#6
Mark CSL CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 8,777 Casino cash: $42229	andy I use red stuff front and rear and they are great Value and work well I have ferodo ds2500 in now and think The red stuff are just as good for half the money

20-09-2008, 08:39 AM	#7
Andyk Driving it like I nicked it Space Invaders Champion! Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chepstow Posts: 2,506 Casino cash: $3997	Mark the red stuff certainly seems great value...I like that....against the others. Do they last well and what about squeal with them. Spineonabap, you don't rate the red stuff then...any reason.

20-09-2008, 08:46 AM	#8
Mark CSL CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 8,777 Casino cash: $42229	The red stuff front and rear cost £80 for the standard CSL pads And £86 for the big brake kit on my CSL And they dont make any noise they lasted 6 trackdays but so do the ds2500 that cost £177+vat for the fronts You do the maths but i like value for money also the best move for the standard calipers is to fit uprated hoses and castrol racing fluid this makes the standard pads alot better if you ask me

20-09-2008, 09:24 AM	#9
rs32 S3 - On the open road Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 87 Casino cash: $250	the OEM Textar pads are indeed pretty rubbish - I had the Pagid Blues on the previous M3 and they squealed like mad after while but the braking performance was excellent. probably going to try the DS2500's when my free BMW set run out or start annoying me too much - the CSL standard setup gives exactly the same problems as the normal M3, too much heat build-up and fade after about 3 seconds use. Performance Friction pads are supposed to be as good as the Pagid's but without the squeal - so maybe worth a try as an alternative ?