To those that run coilovers at the Ring...

funtime · 31-01-2011, 08:55 PM

Simple question...

Firstly do you drive with the traction control fully off or or with M-track or full DSC on?

Secondly, to those that run with traction control on, especially those that run with it fully on (not M-track) do you find that it triggers more since fitting the coilovers?

Basically, I've brought a set of Intrax and speaking to a mate today he said that when he ran KW V3's on his M5 it made the DSC trigger much much more than with the standard suspension, and I'd be silly to fit my Intrax for the purpose of the ring as the DSC will trigger so much that I'll actually be slower.

I don't have a CSL so I don't have the option of M-track, and turning it fully off is not an option at the ring. Round a normal circuit, maybe even spa, yes I would turn it off, but not round the ring.

Any help greatly recieved as usual

**shimmy** · 31-01-2011, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by funtime

Simple question...

Firstly do you drive with the traction control fully off or or with M-track or full DSC on?

Secondly, to those that run with traction control on, especially those that run with it fully on (not M-track) do you find that it triggers more since fitting the coilovers?

Basically, I've brought a set of Intrax and speaking to a mate today he said that when he ran KW V3's on his M5 it made the DSC trigger much much more than with the standard suspension, and I'd be silly to fit my Intrax for the purpose of the ring as the DSC will trigger so much that I'll actually be slower.

I don't have a CSL so I don't have the option of M-track, and turning it fully off is not an option at the ring. Round a normal circuit, maybe even spa, yes I would turn it off, but not round the ring.

Any help greatly recieved as usual

James, you worry far too much

Firstly just coz a mate can't drive or set up his suspension or has dodgy Tyres or pressures doesn't mean good suspension doesn't work.

_Nathan_ · 31-01-2011, 09:16 PM

Just soften the rear for better traction.

funtime · 31-01-2011, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy

James, you worry far too much

Firstly just coz a mate can't drive or set up his suspension or has dodgy Tyres or pressures doesn't mean good suspension doesn't work.

DOH! I know, I do worry, but that's only because I don't like to waste money and if I can save money in the long run by asking the right questions then I don't have to learn the hard way so many times

To be fair, he is a good driver and done well over 100 laps of the ring over the last few years. Irrespective of tyres and ability though, if it triggered the DSC more then it triggered it more... so to be able to put that down to poor suspension set up, I wanted the experiences of others

So do you use DSC? I'm guessing most will use M-Track? and nutters use nothing

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Originally Posted by _Nathan_

Just soften the rear for better traction.

I get that, but did the DSC trigger more?

**AlexGTT** · 31-01-2011, 11:10 PM

Mine doesn't trigger the DSC in M-track any more than normal.

But then again, I usually drive with DSC completely off anyway.

One weird thing I have noticed since fitting Intrax, going through Karussell @ Ring on warm up laps with DSC fully on, the car tends to want to understeer and scrub out of the top of the banking. Probably a combination of too much camber (only happens in damp/cold conditions) and stiff Intrax setting. With M-Track or DSC off there's no issue.

**DazBlackCSL** · 31-01-2011, 11:10 PM

As shim says need to find your level not your mates I'm running coilovers no issues .. M track good to dip and find the levels Off the best ..

BUT. Why the he'll does it matter if your not racing earning points or trophies ?

Enjoy your car, track days and the ring etc to the best of your ability, if you want more race and take the plunge some good MX5 stuff coming up .. Seriously

**glendog74** · 31-01-2011, 11:13 PM

Just drive smoothly - you don't trigger the DSC at all that way

I have KW Clubsport and drive in M-Track mode at the Ring - the only time DSC flickers is when the car goes light over the bigger crests.

**AlexGTT** · 31-01-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by glendog74

Just drive smoothly - you don't trigger the DSC at all that way

I have KW Clubsport and drive in M-Track mode at the Ring - the only time DSC flickers is when the car goes light over the bigger crests.

Or when your drifting.......................right Rob.

**shimmy** · 31-01-2011, 11:18 PM

my DSC has never ever flashed on the Ring

**AlexGTT** · 31-01-2011, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy

my DSC has never ever flashed on the Ring

Didn't you once splash on ring Shim?

31-01-2011, 08:55 PM	#1
funtime S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Sussex Posts: 613 Casino cash: $5830	To those that run coilovers at the Ring... Simple question... Firstly do you drive with the traction control fully off or or with M-track or full DSC on? Secondly, to those that run with traction control on, especially those that run with it fully on (not M-track) do you find that it triggers more since fitting the coilovers? Basically, I've brought a set of Intrax and speaking to a mate today he said that when he ran KW V3's on his M5 it made the DSC trigger much much more than with the standard suspension, and I'd be silly to fit my Intrax for the purpose of the ring as the DSC will trigger so much that I'll actually be slower. I don't have a CSL so I don't have the option of M-track, and turning it fully off is not an option at the ring. Round a normal circuit, maybe even spa, yes I would turn it off, but not round the ring. Any help greatly recieved as usual

31-01-2011, 09:16 PM	#3
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	Just soften the rear for better traction. __________________ Nathan

31-01-2011, 11:10 PM	#5
AlexGTT CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Herefordshire Posts: 4,374 Casino cash: $8572	Mine doesn't trigger the DSC in M-track any more than normal. But then again, I usually drive with DSC completely off anyway. One weird thing I have noticed since fitting Intrax, going through Karussell @ Ring on warm up laps with DSC fully on, the car tends to want to understeer and scrub out of the top of the banking. Probably a combination of too much camber (only happens in damp/cold conditions) and stiff Intrax setting. With M-Track or DSC off there's no issue. __________________ CSL Register Alcoholics Anonymous Group Leader & Businessman of the Year '93! www.earleyengineering.com

31-01-2011, 11:10 PM	#6
DazBlackCSL CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Shaboogling Posts: 7,199 Casino cash: $28478	As shim says need to find your level not your mates I'm running coilovers no issues .. M track good to dip and find the levels Off the best .. BUT. Why the he'll does it matter if your not racing earning points or trophies ? Enjoy your car, track days and the ring etc to the best of your ability, if you want more race and take the plunge some good MX5 stuff coming up .. Seriously __________________ CSL Register Lifestyle Coach and Social Secretary

31-01-2011, 11:13 PM	#7
glendog74 CSL Register Uber-poster! Tetris Champion! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornwall Posts: 8,861 Casino cash: $32299	Just drive smoothly - you don't trigger the DSC at all that way I have KW Clubsport and drive in M-Track mode at the Ring - the only time DSC flickers is when the car goes light over the bigger crests. __________________ Cha'mone Mother F**ker!

31-01-2011, 11:18 PM	#9
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,646 Casino cash: $43909	my DSC has never ever flashed on the Ring __________________ .