Some more on the M3 GTS

[Mark CSL]

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/bmw...1-05?imageNo=0

[Great Pretender]

I've got a bit of a lob-on for the GTS and I'm not sure why.

Evo didn't rate it too highly compared with the 997RS, albeit Car seem to like it better.

It just looks like a double-hard bastard next to the boringly familiar 911 silhouette.

[AlexGTT]

I think next to the 997 GT3 RS it looks second rate and like it crashed through Halfords front window into the Ripspeed dept. Also makes the 997 GT3 RS look great value and it's substantially quicker on Ring.

There's no contest.

[shimmy]

Seeing it in the flesh made me realise it is pants.

Masively overpriced due to low numbers but nothing more than a homologation exercise to run the 4.4 ltr engine

Spoiler, Cf roof and interior looks rubbish for £120k

Engine bay looks sweet.

truth is you can do this yourself and better with an e92 M3 (much easier than M3 to CSL). More power and better suspension.

[toofastforyou]

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

I think next to the 997 GT3 RS it looks second rate and like it crashed through Halfords front window into the Ripspeed dept. Also makes the 997 GT3 RS look great value and it's substantially quicker on Ring.

There's no contest.

sure in that orange colour, but in that new frozen grey colour it would look very mean, purposeful and very sexy. it is still quite heavy for a 'lightweight' at 1530kg. i think with just a major diet to csl weight it would compete with gt3rs around the ring, but for that price it should already be lighter.

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by toofastforyou

sure in that orange colour, but in that new frozen grey colour it would look very mean, purposeful and very sexy. it is still quite heavy for a 'lightweight' at 1530kg. i think with just a major diet to csl weight it would compete with gt3rs around the ring, but for that price it should already be lighter.

i think they are only made in orange

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by toofastforyou

sure in that orange colour, but in that new frozen grey colour it would look very mean, purposeful and very sexy. it is still quite heavy for a 'lightweight' at 1530kg. i think with just a major diet to csl weight it would compete with gt3rs around the ring, but for that price it should already be lighter.

I wouldn't care what paint was on it. It's still shite in comparison. It's also way too heavy at 1530kg. I've seen nicer rear wings on the Saxo's racing round the town centre.

Also, as me, Shimmy, Yanto and Daz saw, they use the same carbon roof as the regular coupe and badly fill the fixing for the sharks fin. Very second rate and not bespoke enough for the price.

[toofastforyou]

Originally Posted by shimmy

i think they are only made in orange

yeah they are, for some strange reason. horrible colour. so pikey

if i got one i think the first thing i would do is spray it frozen grey.

my mate got a e92 competition pack in frozen grey with all the csl carbon bits, it looks seriously sexy like an e92 csl! i'll get a pic up of both of ours side by side soon.

[toofastforyou]

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

I wouldn't care what paint was on it. It's still shite in comparison. It's also way too heavy at 1530kg. I've seen nicer rear wings on the Saxo's racing round the town centre.

Also, as me, Shimmy, Yanto and Daz saw, they use the same carbon roof as the regular coupe and badly fill the fixing for the sharks fin. Very second rate and not bespoke enough for the price.

apparently the wing is the from bmw 320 race cars.

i agree about the price. bmw should have produced more, lowered the price (£70k) and called it the e92 csl. i would have been all over it like flies on hot s**t.

[mattCSLnut]

For £120K I'd want this