Noble M12 GT0-3R vs CSL

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Funkster

Hi shim
The Noble was a 2.15 but as already said, I'm sure there's a lot more in the car with someone than can pedal it a tad better.

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Originally Posted by DIB17

I would have expected them to be miles quicker around a track than a CSL and I thought they would be easy to drive near the limit as everyone praises what a good handling and sorted car they are!

when they are out there running i always expected them to come tearing past me but never do. i think it must be the difficulty in gettng power down etc making them hard to drive.

Well see what Funkster thinks when he gets out on a good comparison drive but the CSLs first time out on Snett 300 last March were doing 2m 10 to 2m 17 depending on which one you were in so already looking better.

[_Nathan_]

So 5 seconds a lap faster with more of less half the power to weight on a circuit that has 2 massive straights with acceleration from low speed which would favour the Noble...

[Funkster]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

So 5 seconds a lap faster with more of less half the power to weight on a circuit that has 2 massive straights with acceleration from low speed which would favour the Noble...

The noble time was on trackday and I must say that I'm rather courteus to other drivers and I'm sure there is still plenty left but probably no from me.

The 328i track car anyhow was a 2.21 during a race and deffo with no mechanical sympathy.

Round the old Corram I would quite happily be in a 4 wheel drift about 90mph lap after lap but would never imagine doing that in the Noble.

As I've said there is a lot more in the car than I can achieve but I put this more down to my comfort and possibly the front engined rear drive of a beemer suiting my style.
When I'm on it I much prefer the upright close to the wheel type of position so I can use my upper body to feel whats feeding back through and make adjustments to suit...... Im just laying down in the Noble with arms at full stretch with no feel at all.

Well I can't help being a freak of nature and so long in the body.....( and chopper ) Bubble in the roof me thinks.

Matty.

[_Nathan_]

At 6'7 I know your pain with the Noble, seat custion removed, rails repositioned, steering spacer.

Shimmys 2:10 in his csl was on a track day too, that is what I was comparing the 2:15 Noble time too.

[LeinsCSL]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

At 6'7 I know your pain with the Noble, seat custion removed, rails repositioned, steering spacer.

If it's unreliable cars that tall people can fit in, then it's gotta be TVR. As far as I rem Peter Wheeler was somewhere around 6'8, as am I, and they're a seriously comfortable place to sit

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by LeinsCSL

If it's unreliable cars that tall people can fit in, then it's gotta be TVR. As far as I rem Peter Wheeler was somewhere around 6'8, as am I, and they're a seriously comfortable place to sit

True, if I'm gonna get an unreliable car I guess a comfy one should be the choice at east then you can sit in luxury whilst waiting for ADAC

[_Nathan_]

Originally Posted by LeinsCSL

If it's unreliable cars that tall people can fit in, then it's gotta be TVR. As far as I rem Peter Wheeler was somewhere around 6'8, as am I, and they're a seriously comfortable place to sit

I had one of them, it was wank, Noble was miles better