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Old 21-12-2013, 02:04 PM   #31
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Very few E61 M5s were sold.
Akso the reason why there is no F10 M5 estate.
Judging by myself I would never buy an estate M5
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Old 21-12-2013, 02:08 PM   #32
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There is a company in Germany that specialises in fitting E39 M5 V8's to Z1's. That said im not sure i'd like to drive one, a friend owns the Ex. Ross Brawn car and its pretty entertaining as it is tbh
Better make that a suspension upgrade as well
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Old 21-12-2013, 02:24 PM   #33
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Better make that a suspension upgrade as well
Yep and brakes you'd hope
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Old 21-12-2013, 02:38 PM   #34
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I would also have liked a manual M3 CSL without subframe issues!
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Old 21-12-2013, 02:55 PM   #35
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I would also have liked a manual M3 CSL without subframe issues!
Agree with the subframe but I actually prefer the SMG. I just feel it adds to the overall experience.
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Old 21-12-2013, 03:56 PM   #36
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e46 4 door saloon would have been nice.

also road going version of the E46 GTR with the v8 in it as limited edition run.
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Old 21-12-2013, 04:12 PM   #37
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I am sure they would have sold "some" E46 M3 Tourings but whether they would have sold enough to cover R&D costs etc is another matter.
BMW have sold E34 M5 Touring and E61 M5 Touring.
Both never sold in great numbers at all
Why there wasn't a E39 M5 Touring ( well there was one for the head of BMW M) is I think something to do with development or handling and again sales projections.
If BMW really believed they could sell enough E46 M3 Tourings brand new they would have done but they didn't presumably because there was no business case.
No point making something even if tech fest if you can't cover costs and make a profit
You also have to ask if they thought not selling the E46 M3 Touring was a mistake why they
didn't sell a E9X M3 Touring
As for Audis a lot of ppl that want estates generally are Audi lovers any way
All the development cost were in building the prototype, how much more development would have been be entailed, in sticking a S54 engine and drive train into a touring shell, reuse of existing production body panels to the front, only the rear arches and bumper to modify and whala an M3 Touring! Happy BMW enthusiasts with Touring needs.

Audi has the lead with the RS4 in Touring Class with the Avant, why? Quite simply because BMW didn't make a comparable car. The M5 Touring is too big for most peoples needs and hence poor European sales. Obviously aimed at the American market.

If they went on projected sales and profitability being their only criteria, for production, they would never have produced the M3 CSL, as their largest market is the States and as we all know they didn't get it

At one time, BMW used to have owners panels, where the viability of potential models under consideration was discussed prior to production, that's how the E21 evolved and the first M models came about, through driver/owner input. (So I'm told) Now it's left to accountants and journalists to tell us what we're getting, C'est la vie - take it or leave it! Bring back the Driver panels
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Old 21-12-2013, 04:18 PM   #38
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e46 4 door saloon would have been nice.
also road going version of the E46 GTR with the v8 in it as limited edition run.
Done!
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Old 21-12-2013, 04:51 PM   #39
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did bmw make that in prod or was that a one off special that never made it further than the musuem?

doesn't look right for some reason...
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That looks terrible, the bumpers are horrific, the wheels on the front are about 2 inches to narrow, did it actually have a V8 or not ??
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