Diff noise and oil quantity and price please

J2LTB · 11-01-2013, 10:01 AM

My cars got the typical slow speed / tight turn diff noise. I'm going to try and put the latest modiefied diff oil in. Basically how much does it require and how much is it ? Usually off the shelf. DIY job ? Any tips . I've got a good mechanic friend though. No warranty :-/

dave wilkinson · 11-01-2013, 12:41 PM

the friction modifier fluid comes in a pack from bmw containing three bottles.(£90 ish) they'll tell you to use all three but personally i'd start with one and see how its sounds after 500 miles. put one bottle in find a empty car park and hold it on full lock and do 20 circles one way then 20 circles the other. this will ensure the fluid gets into the friction plates.

just to add its nothing to worry about, all it means is that your diff and the friction plates inside are working, if your tracking it i personally would leave it, but each to there own.

J2LTB · 11-01-2013, 02:26 PM

Brill cheers for that Dave. So are you saying its a additive to the existing oil ? Or do I have to drop the lot ? Has anyone got a guide on here for referance?

NBTBRV8 · 11-01-2013, 11:12 PM

SI B33 01 02
Rear Axle January 2009
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B33 01 02 dated March 2008.

designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
Grinding Noise from the Differential during Slow Cornering

MODEL
E46 M3 from start of production

E60 M5 from start of production

E63, E64 M6 from start of production

E90, E92 and E93 M3 from start of production

E85, E86 with S54 from start of production

SITUATION
A grinding noise may be heard coming from the differential during slow cornering.

This noise is best heard during tight cornering situations; for example, while parallel parking, driving in a tight circle, etc.

CAUSE
When the rear wheel speed differential varies during tight cornering, a slip stick effect is created on the lining and steel discs incorporated in the differential locking clutch, causing the grinding noise.

This noise typically goes away as the locking clutch discs in the differential are broken in.

The break-in time varies depending on driving habits; for example, tighter cornering (working the locking clutch) means that it takes less time to break in the locking clutch discs.

CORRECTION
If a customer complaint is verified as described above on the E46 M3; E60 M5; E63 and E64 M6; or on the E90, E92 and E93 M3 vehicles, the differential oil should be replaced with a specially formulated differential oil, BMW part number 83 22 2 282 583 (eight three two two two two eight two five eight three).

PROCEDURE

Drain the differential oil. Refer to the appropriate model repair instruction in TIS:

Main Group 33 / Subgroup 10 / RA(NNN) NNN-NNNN

Refill the differential with special differential oil as shown in the illustration below.

Differential fill capacity = 1.2 liters (1.3 quarts).

Remove the seal (1) between the bottle cap and neck.

Pull the filler tube (2) out of the bottle.

Remove the cap (3) from the filler tube (2).

Insert the filler tube into the fill hole in the differential and with the bottle positioned under the output shaft, squeeze the bottle to transfer the oil into the differential.

Road test the vehicle.

With the vehicle at operating temperature, drive in tight circles (20 circles in each direction), allowing the special oil to coat the locking clutch discs.

The grinding noise will decrease when the locking clutch discs are sufficiently coated. Some slight noises may still be heard after driving in tight circles. Advise the customer that it will be necessary to drive the vehicle up to 600 miles before all noises are eliminated.

Note: Vehicles that have had the differential oil converted to this special oil should continue to use this oil whenever a service requiring the differential oil replacement is indicated.

PARTS INFORMATION
Part Number
Description
Qty.

83 22 2 282 583
(eight three two two two two eight two five eight three)
Special differential oil kit
1

Contains 3 bottles - .5 liters (.53 quarts) each

(order quantity 1 : bill out quantity 3)

J2LTB · 11-01-2013, 11:38 PM

Nvtbrv8 thank you for your help that's the exact listing I was looking for. I've been told £80-90 for the oil now.

Cheers

to you both

11-01-2013, 10:01 AM	#1
J2LTB S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 407 Casino cash: $5472	Diff noise and oil quantity and price please My cars got the typical slow speed / tight turn diff noise. I'm going to try and put the latest modiefied diff oil in. Basically how much does it require and how much is it ? Usually off the shelf. DIY job ? Any tips . I've got a good mechanic friend though. No warranty :-/ __________________ Previously owned CSL No:16 😞

11-01-2013, 02:26 PM	#3
J2LTB S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 407 Casino cash: $5472	Brill cheers for that Dave. So are you saying its a additive to the existing oil ? Or do I have to drop the lot ? Has anyone got a guide on here for referance? __________________ Previously owned CSL No:16 😞

11-01-2013, 11:38 PM	#5
J2LTB S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Staffordshire Posts: 407 Casino cash: $5472	Nvtbrv8 thank you for your help that's the exact listing I was looking for. I've been told £80-90 for the oil now. Cheers to you both __________________ Previously owned CSL No:16 😞

11-01-2013, 12:41 PM	#2
dave wilkinson S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 252 Casino cash: $6129	the friction modifier fluid comes in a pack from bmw containing three bottles.(£90 ish) they'll tell you to use all three but personally i'd start with one and see how its sounds after 500 miles. put one bottle in find a empty car park and hold it on full lock and do 20 circles one way then 20 circles the other. this will ensure the fluid gets into the friction plates. just to add its nothing to worry about, all it means is that your diff and the friction plates inside are working, if your tracking it i personally would leave it, but each to there own.

11-01-2013, 11:12 PM	#4
NBTBRV8 S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Other Side of the World Posts: 275 Casino cash: $10831	SI B33 01 02 Rear Axle January 2009 Technical Service This Service Information bulletin supersedes SI B33 01 02 dated March 2008. designates changes to this revision SUBJECT Grinding Noise from the Differential during Slow Cornering MODEL E46 M3 from start of production E60 M5 from start of production E63, E64 M6 from start of production E90, E92 and E93 M3 from start of production E85, E86 with S54 from start of production SITUATION A grinding noise may be heard coming from the differential during slow cornering. This noise is best heard during tight cornering situations; for example, while parallel parking, driving in a tight circle, etc. CAUSE When the rear wheel speed differential varies during tight cornering, a slip stick effect is created on the lining and steel discs incorporated in the differential locking clutch, causing the grinding noise. This noise typically goes away as the locking clutch discs in the differential are broken in. The break-in time varies depending on driving habits; for example, tighter cornering (working the locking clutch) means that it takes less time to break in the locking clutch discs. CORRECTION If a customer complaint is verified as described above on the E46 M3; E60 M5; E63 and E64 M6; or on the E90, E92 and E93 M3 vehicles, the differential oil should be replaced with a specially formulated differential oil, BMW part number 83 22 2 282 583 (eight three two two two two eight two five eight three). PROCEDURE Drain the differential oil. Refer to the appropriate model repair instruction in TIS: Main Group 33 / Subgroup 10 / RA(NNN) NNN-NNNN Refill the differential with special differential oil as shown in the illustration below. Differential fill capacity = 1.2 liters (1.3 quarts). Remove the seal (1) between the bottle cap and neck. Pull the filler tube (2) out of the bottle. Remove the cap (3) from the filler tube (2). Insert the filler tube into the fill hole in the differential and with the bottle positioned under the output shaft, squeeze the bottle to transfer the oil into the differential. Road test the vehicle. With the vehicle at operating temperature, drive in tight circles (20 circles in each direction), allowing the special oil to coat the locking clutch discs. The grinding noise will decrease when the locking clutch discs are sufficiently coated. Some slight noises may still be heard after driving in tight circles. Advise the customer that it will be necessary to drive the vehicle up to 600 miles before all noises are eliminated. Note: Vehicles that have had the differential oil converted to this special oil should continue to use this oil whenever a service requiring the differential oil replacement is indicated. PARTS INFORMATION Part Number Description Qty. 83 22 2 282 583 (eight three two two two two eight two five eight three) Special differential oil kit 1 Contains 3 bottles - .5 liters (.53 quarts) each (order quantity 1 : bill out quantity 3)