Some updates/mods and a good clean

gingernuts · 09-04-2013, 07:54 PM

Gave the CSL a good clean today, and got some photos of it with the little mods Ive added.

added:

schroth quick release harnesses
15mm and 12mm Spacers
Bmw plate holder (acquired from the Factory in Munich when I paid a visit last year)
Pagid RS29's
Braided Lines
Brembo Fluid
Depo's (still not sure on these)

Have done around 3500 miles in her now with only a few days on dry days so only just really getting the chance to push it more in the corners. Had toyed with the idea of coilovers, but the more I use it on roads around me the more I think it would make it more difficult to progress quickly as some of the roads are just to bumpy for coilies. One of the other reasons was having seen Dereks on KW's, it sat really nicely, but having added the spacers I think it sits much nicer and is a nice compromise.

Also if anyones any good at photoshop and fancies tarting upand of the photos that would be ace!

deanobeano · 09-04-2013, 08:23 PM

Looking good Ginger and in the right colour too!

Mods can we have a sub forum for the SB svelter and rarer variant?

ChrisCSL · 09-04-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gingernuts

Hmm,
Are you sure, that this is safe?

chrisburns · 09-04-2013, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deanobeano

Looking good Ginger and in the right colour too!

Mods can we have a sub forum for the SB svelter and rarer variant?

www.m3cutters.com

How the the harnesses anchored ?

Neil M · 09-04-2013, 10:25 PM

Photoshop you rang sir?

Nothing wrong with the images, other than you should never take a pic viewing into the light source, left rear 3/4 shot.

Those belts are going to make a mess of the Alcantara, where are they anchored in the rear belt sockets, if so will it pass an MOT with that set up.
Looks like you've inadvertently provided a get out of jail clause for the insurance company, if that's the case.

gingernuts · 09-04-2013, 10:32 PM

Harnesses use existing seat belt mounts and a couple of clips that bolt underneath. 30s to remove/put in!

chrisburns · 09-04-2013, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gingernuts

Harnesses use existing seat belt mounts and a couple of clips that bolt underneath. 30s to remove/put in!

Surely thats not strong enough in the event of an accident though ? Not being a spoil sport here but I think you would be safer with the factory belt.

gingernuts · 09-04-2013, 11:18 PM

If a standard seat belt just uses two points of contact, and this uses four. Id assume that was safer. Im sure schroth wouldn't make something that wasn't tested and up to standard.

Regards wear, I will only use them for track days or the ring if I were ever to do any. Thats the reason for using a quick release system. I have also put seat belt pads wear they make contact with the seat.

The original belts are still there and used on a day to day basis.

ChrisCSL · 09-04-2013, 11:43 PM

The schroths are not the problem. I´m more concerned about the fact, that the standard seats are not designed for this kind of harnesses. There is a reason, that full bucket seats have holes for the harnesses for defined guidance. Your pelvis cant be fixed properly, and there is also is a chance, that the shoulder belts will wipe off by the sides.

gingernuts · 09-04-2013, 11:49 PM

Fair point. Across the lap it is held very tight and I'd say is more secure feeling than the standard belt. I can see what your saying across the shoulders and in certain circumstances could occur, however, I run my belts really tight as I do in my race car and you couldn't physically move the belt off the shoulder (also worth bearing in mind that the shoulders sit above the wings of the seat so wouldnt be angled as in the photo). According to schroth these are designed for an E46 M3, maybe not a CSL but they don't have holes in them either. I wont be doing much track work if any, but just felt these would be safer at the ring in may, and having tried them quickly on the road they definitely give you a much improved sense of security in the seat. Like you say though as to whether they actually work is not proven.

09-04-2013, 07:54 PM	#1
gingernuts S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 186 Casino cash: $112	Some updates/mods and a good clean Gave the CSL a good clean today, and got some photos of it with the little mods Ive added. added: schroth quick release harnesses 15mm and 12mm Spacers Bmw plate holder (acquired from the Factory in Munich when I paid a visit last year) Pagid RS29's Braided Lines Brembo Fluid Depo's (still not sure on these) Have done around 3500 miles in her now with only a few days on dry days so only just really getting the chance to push it more in the corners. Had toyed with the idea of coilovers, but the more I use it on roads around me the more I think it would make it more difficult to progress quickly as some of the roads are just to bumpy for coilies. One of the other reasons was having seen Dereks on KW's, it sat really nicely, but having added the spacers I think it sits much nicer and is a nice compromise. Also if anyones any good at photoshop and fancies tarting upand of the photos that would be ace!

09-04-2013, 10:25 PM	#5
Neil M Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,340 Casino cash: $19143	Photoshop you rang sir? Nothing wrong with the images, other than you should never take a pic viewing into the light source, left rear 3/4 shot. Those belts are going to make a mess of the Alcantara, where are they anchored in the rear belt sockets, if so will it pass an MOT with that set up. Looks like you've inadvertently provided a get out of jail clause for the insurance company, if that's the case. __________________ “With the CSL, BMW have achieved The Ultimate Driving Machine” SG CSL '051' Last edited by Neil M; 09-04-2013 at 10:40 PM.

09-04-2013, 08:23 PM	#2
deanobeano S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 310 Casino cash: $3117	Looking good Ginger and in the right colour too! Mods can we have a sub forum for the SB svelter and rarer variant?

09-04-2013, 10:32 PM	#6
gingernuts S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 186 Casino cash: $112	Harnesses use existing seat belt mounts and a couple of clips that bolt underneath. 30s to remove/put in!

09-04-2013, 11:18 PM	#8
gingernuts S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 186 Casino cash: $112	If a standard seat belt just uses two points of contact, and this uses four. Id assume that was safer. Im sure schroth wouldn't make something that wasn't tested and up to standard. Regards wear, I will only use them for track days or the ring if I were ever to do any. Thats the reason for using a quick release system. I have also put seat belt pads wear they make contact with the seat. The original belts are still there and used on a day to day basis.

09-04-2013, 11:43 PM	#9
ChrisCSL S2 - Picking it up Join Date: May 2012 Location: Germany / Rheinland Pfalz Posts: 57 Casino cash: $6143	The schroths are not the problem. I´m more concerned about the fact, that the standard seats are not designed for this kind of harnesses. There is a reason, that full bucket seats have holes for the harnesses for defined guidance. Your pelvis cant be fixed properly, and there is also is a chance, that the shoulder belts will wipe off by the sides.

09-04-2013, 11:49 PM	#10
gingernuts S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Perth, Scotland Posts: 186 Casino cash: $112	Fair point. Across the lap it is held very tight and I'd say is more secure feeling than the standard belt. I can see what your saying across the shoulders and in certain circumstances could occur, however, I run my belts really tight as I do in my race car and you couldn't physically move the belt off the shoulder (also worth bearing in mind that the shoulders sit above the wings of the seat so wouldnt be angled as in the photo). According to schroth these are designed for an E46 M3, maybe not a CSL but they don't have holes in them either. I wont be doing much track work if any, but just felt these would be safer at the ring in may, and having tried them quickly on the road they definitely give you a much improved sense of security in the seat. Like you say though as to whether they actually work is not proven.