BMW 1m - Page 9

ando · 27-05-2011, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lawsy

Is it just me that thinks it's fucking ugly

Not my cup of tea at all, regardless how fast it is.

Just what I was thinking, won't be rushing out to try one, think the E46 is the best looking shape BMW have done.

Was always going to happen with the one series, there about the same size as a e46.

I think turbo cars are fun, easy to tune, but don't make the noise, it's all about the noise........

Ando

mattCSLnut · 27-05-2011, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ando

Just what I was thinking, won't be rushing out to try one, think the E46 is the best looking shape BMW have done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ando

Was always going to happen with the one series, there about the same size as a e46.

I think turbo cars are fun, easy to tune, but don't make the noise, it's all about the noise........
Ando

azrael · 27-05-2011, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ando

Just what I was thinking, won't be rushing out to try one, think the E46 is the best looking shape BMW have done.

Was always going to happen with the one series, there about the same size as a e46.

I think turbo cars are fun, easy to tune, but don't make the noise, it's all about the noise........

Ando

Starting to look dated now, but now and then I catch it at the right angle and it looks brill. Still not sold on the E92 though

LeinsCSL · 27-05-2011, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SachaR

To be honest I stopped my subcription to evo a few years ago because I was bored of evo as It seemed to loose its original direction

With Meaden back writing for them and Harris joining I think it's the best mag out there by a long way

Rutkowski · 27-05-2011, 11:36 PM

I still think Evo is the best car magazine out there...

shane@mbtech · 28-05-2011, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azrael

Starting to look dated now, but now and then I catch it at the right angle and it looks brill. Still not sold on the E92 though

I look at the CSL and think it looks stunning still, then sometimes think it will never look dated.
But now I own the E92, I see lines that you dont notice straight away, its very similar in a way to the e46, then throws a modern twist in too.

Then when the e46 is next to the e92 I think the e46 does show a little age, still beautiful regardless.

This pic sort of got me hooked, and you can see the similarities between the 2.

The M1 is still fugly though.

e92dct.jpg

magnust · 28-05-2011, 12:38 AM

I've driven the press car here in Sweden on two occasions. It's a real cracker that one! I haven't read any reviews of it at all yet though.

We had a whole day on an airfield track where we had these four to compare:

- 1 M coupé
- V8 PDK coupé
- CSL (mine)
- 2002 Turbo!

See where the idea for the article is going ;-)

Anyhoo, we had ample time in each car and I must say the 1 M is really really impressing! It pulls like crazy. Getting back in the CSL I got worried something was wrong with it before I after a lap or two re-accustomed myself to it

The 1 M is also a blast when turning the wheel, the short wheelbase is very present in the way it reacts and handles. Sometimes it's even a handful in the wet with all gizmos turned off.

You do always shift up 1000 rpm below the redline though, in stock trim there's no use going further up. This is IMHO a very small "blemish" which anyway probably can be fixed with aftermarket stuff. My main complaint is that it only comes with a manual gearbox. If it had less power I wouldn't mind this at all but with it's crazy pull I really really really missed PDK or SMG.

The CSL is with no question whatsoever the more focused track car. It's more communicative, absolutely more fun when driving hard on a track. But the 1 M is a truly great car, I'm 100% convinced it will sell in spades. It will be a fantastic treat at the Ring. And it can be tweaked to get even better. Now if they do a lightweight with PDK I'll have some trouble sticking with my beloved CSL... So I hope they don't

PS: Don't tell any Swedes about what I just wrote above, the article is probably a secret. Ooops, if you're a swede forget what you just read!

The Gorilla · 28-05-2011, 04:07 PM

Hi,

Seems the old CSL is ok yet for a while,
well on Track anyway.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=23696

I just keep thinking that a E92 on the correct
diet with some proper brakes and sorted
suspension and bars, a nice free flowing
exhaust would be right on the money.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

mattCSLnut · 28-05-2011, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Gorilla

Hi,

Seems the old CSL is ok yet for a while,
well on Track anyway.

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=23696

I just keep thinking that a E92 on the correct
diet with some proper brakes and sorted
suspension and bars, a nice free flowing
exhaust would be right on the money.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

Well spotted Sir

Rutkowski · 28-05-2011, 05:03 PM

B road handling ability and track performance mean two very different set ups.

You cannot have it both ways, it is always a compromise.

28-05-2011, 12:38 AM	#87
magnust S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm, Sweden Posts: 138 Casino cash: $1477	I've driven the press car here in Sweden on two occasions. It's a real cracker that one! I haven't read any reviews of it at all yet though. We had a whole day on an airfield track where we had these four to compare: - 1 M coupé - V8 PDK coupé - CSL (mine) - 2002 Turbo! See where the idea for the article is going ;-) Anyhoo, we had ample time in each car and I must say the 1 M is really really impressing! It pulls like crazy. Getting back in the CSL I got worried something was wrong with it before I after a lap or two re-accustomed myself to it The 1 M is also a blast when turning the wheel, the short wheelbase is very present in the way it reacts and handles. Sometimes it's even a handful in the wet with all gizmos turned off. You do always shift up 1000 rpm below the redline though, in stock trim there's no use going further up. This is IMHO a very small "blemish" which anyway probably can be fixed with aftermarket stuff. My main complaint is that it only comes with a manual gearbox. If it had less power I wouldn't mind this at all but with it's crazy pull I really really really missed PDK or SMG. The CSL is with no question whatsoever the more focused track car. It's more communicative, absolutely more fun when driving hard on a track. But the 1 M is a truly great car, I'm 100% convinced it will sell in spades. It will be a fantastic treat at the Ring. And it can be tweaked to get even better. Now if they do a lightweight with PDK I'll have some trouble sticking with my beloved CSL... So I hope they don't PS: Don't tell any Swedes about what I just wrote above, the article is probably a secret. Ooops, if you're a swede forget what you just read! __________________ My Swedish track day / hobby racing site: www.rejsa.nu Last edited by magnust; 28-05-2011 at 12:40 AM.

27-05-2011, 11:36 PM	#85
Rutkowski S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Poland/London Posts: 464 Casino cash: $4132	I still think Evo is the best car magazine out there...

28-05-2011, 04:07 PM	#88
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, Seems the old CSL is ok yet for a while, well on Track anyway. http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=23696 I just keep thinking that a E92 on the correct diet with some proper brakes and sorted suspension and bars, a nice free flowing exhaust would be right on the money. Regards, The Gorilla.

28-05-2011, 05:03 PM	#90
Rutkowski S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Poland/London Posts: 464 Casino cash: $4132	B road handling ability and track performance mean two very different set ups. You cannot have it both ways, it is always a compromise.