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Old 01-03-2013, 12:30 PM   #41
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Stop being secret squirrel .

Is it because most of the performance increases mentioned are load of BS ?





Looking at your video Mike, I don't see that Cossy catching a well driven CSL, we always have our boost turned down.

Not knowing how well you drive, unless ou were cracking 1m 20s at Donny I'd say the CSL is faster and at the Ring I'd say the stock CSL will be faster. Amybe it's a chance to look a bit more holistically at a car and have something that is reliable, road and tack use, faster than most affordable cars and a great tool for learning to driver better (not meant to be a dig)

If you do want to pull an engine apart I'd get a V8 and buy an E46M3 and do your worst!
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:38 PM   #42
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I'm spoiled - most things seem painfully slow .

I look forward to seeing you at Snett on June 10th then and I'll try not to hold you up
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:45 PM   #43
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I look forward to seeing you at Snett on June 10th then and I'll try not to hold you up
How many ponies are you kicking out now?
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That csl certainly didn't appear to be being driven to its full potential
The capri driver was doing well keeping it's arse from catching up with the front end
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:51 PM   #45
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Looking at your video Mike, I don't see that Cossy catching a well driven CSL, we always have our boost turned down.

Not knowing how well you drive, unless ou were cracking 1m 20s at Donny I'd say the CSL is faster and at the Ring I'd say the stock CSL will be faster. Amybe it's a chance to look a bit more holistically at a car and have something that is reliable, road and tack use, faster than most affordable cars and a great tool for learning to driver better (not meant to be a dig)

If you do want to pull an engine apart I'd get a V8 and buy an E46M3 and do your worst!
I've never timed myself at any events, but we all like to consider ourselves "good" drivers . However, in my experience, I have yet to come across a CSL that has been driven with sufficient gusto to prevent it from being overtaken at any circuit (including that green thing at the 'ring ).

I know exactly what you mean regarding the driving aspect and the way I have set my car up (over the 12 years I've owned it), everyone who has driven it has raved about the handling, as it is very neutral and with the traction provided with 4wd, can out-corner almost anything it comes across (aero cars excluded) - basically it has become too easy to drive. As soon as you turn in, you can nail the throttle, it grips, requires a sniff of opposite lock and away it goes. So you are correct, having perfected it, I fancy the challenge of something new and more difficult to get the speed out of. Having had some seat time in a well modded E46 M3 (Intrax, CSL wheels, APs and geo set-up) around the 'ring, I love the way these cars drive, but was worried that with the standard 360PS CSL, I'd get bored (as I have with the E90). I'm used to rwd having had a 515bhp Sapphire, which was a real handful, so sideways does not bother me in the slightest .
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That csl certainly didn't appear to be being driven to its full potential
The capri driver was doing well keeping it's arse from catching up with the front end
The Capri is running a 370bhp Cossie lump .
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How many ponies are you kicking out now?
Not enough .
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Old 01-03-2013, 12:56 PM   #48
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Although the CSL wheels are the most beautiful wheels for the CSL, they are far from being lightweight.
Quite the contrary. Have a look here -> http://www.cslregister.com/forum/sho...1&postcount=30
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The Capri is running a 370bhp Cossie lump .
Fair play to that!! Looks like a standard 2.8i or 280 to me !
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Although the CSL wheels are the most beautiful wheels for the CSL, they are far from being lightweight.
Quite the contrary. Have a look here -> http://www.cslregister.com/forum/sho...1&postcount=30
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The weights given by manufacturers tend to be an average of all the wheels across the various offsets in that size, so you'd really need to weigh the exact wheel in question (with the correct offset for a CSL) to get a truly accurate comparison - you might find that they are heavier (or even lighter) than quoted, depending on the offset (which is achieved by more or less material in the centre of the wheel, as in a high offset wheel will weigh more than a low offset wheel of the exact same type and size).

Where the weights for the OE CSL wheel, I assume are for that specific wheel / offset for the car?
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