The CSL production data thread

[digi]

There are 6 official imports in HK by BMW HK. Our local club has 3-4 of them. They are all fully optioned and they were sold in HK for $1.18M dollars new. Thats 100K sterling. They are all SG. Last time I took my CSL to BMW (HK) the sale people were taking photo's etc. Seems like its a very rare sight for them too.

[NBTBRV8]

Originally Posted by digi

There are 6 official imports in HK by BMW HK. Our local club has 3-4 of them. They are all fully optioned and they were sold in HK for $1.18M dollars new. Thats 100K sterling. They are all SG. Last time I took my CSL to BMW (HK) the sale people were taking photo's etc. Seems like its a very rare sight for them too.

I would really love to get a HK delivered car's VIN to identify which batch they were, can you assist with this?

I am about half way through cataloguing the LHD vehicles at present.

[Teavious]

Originally Posted by digi

There are 6 official imports in HK by BMW HK. Our local club has 3-4 of them. They are all fully optioned and they were sold in HK for $1.18M dollars new. Thats 100K sterling. They are all SG. Last time I took my CSL to BMW (HK) the sale people were taking photo's etc. Seems like its a very rare sight for them too.

I still take mine back to the dealer although mine isn't an official import. Which garage are you taking yours to if not the dealer?

[digi]

The only time I take it back to BMW is when I need the valve adjustment, other than that there is no reason to pay the premium as alot of good garages in HK have either ex BMW or Merc tech's that own them. They are very competent, but you will need to know who's who otherwise you will have some cowboy working on your machine which isn't good.

The garage I use do not speak English so there may well be a communication problem if you deal with them.

There is a friend who speaks English and he services Mercs, BMW's (he's a BMW nut), Porsche's etc. If you want I can pass you his details. His name is Ken and very well known in BMW circles in HK. He has a E36 M3 white in color / 997 Turbo etc. and everyone knows him as ACKenny. Trusty guy, deals with many wealthy clients and their vehicles.

I don't use him regularly simply becoz he's on the HK Island side and I'm located on the New Territory side, but if I had to have things done and I was on the island side I would go to him for my regular services for sure.

[digi]

Originally Posted by NBTBRV8

I would really love to get a HK delivered car's VIN to identify which batch they were, can you assist with this?

I am about half way through cataloguing the LHD vehicles at present.

Where is it located? I will pm you the details.

[NBTBRV8]

I finished cataloguing all the LHD cars today, I've just got to collate and interpret it all now. A first up stat though is that 303 black cars were built, 135 of which were delimited. 542 silver cars built, 224 delimited.

I'll post the final details shortly.

[Alx]

Once again, thank you for your contribution!

I'm looking forward for the results.

[Neil M]

Excellent piece of work, labourious and time consuming and one not to be undertaken lightly.

These links may be of use, if not already using, in your quest for production information.

Providing you have the last 7 digits of the VIN No, you can access a copy of production data sheet for the individual vehicle as supplied by the factory, this would appear to access BMW's own data:
http://www.rubmw.ru/vincode/eng/

With specific regard to UK supplied cars, if you have access to the Original Registration No. (does not work if on private plates) then in most cases you can find the VIN No. via this link http://www.bmw-warranty.co.uk/Pages/CarDetails.aspx

NOTE: I understand the "shimmy" may be working on this information for UK Cars

May the Force be with You ! ! !

[NBTBRV8]

For those following this thread I have just updated my first post with all the RHD production data. This should be it, I am now in the process of analysing all of the LHD production data and will make a similar post shortly.

[NBTBRV8]

The LHD production run & market is much more complicated to break down than the RHD, but none the less this is what I have established:

There were 841 LHD CSLs made according to the BMW ASAP data, there is no listing for cars JB98408 > JB98409, these cars don’t exist as they appear to be the change point from MY03 cars to MY04 cars, there is a production gap in the data for this period too for the RHD vehicles at the end of August 2003. Of the 841 cars there are 44 vehicles which have their “Data restricted” with 15 made during the production run. These LHD test cars are listed for the following markets:

1 Egyptian market car.
35 German market vehicles.
3 Japanese market vehicles.
5 unknown market vehicles, however of these 5:
3 had Italian operating instructions,
1 had Swedish operating instructions (books),
1 had Dutch operating instructions (books),

The total LHD production run consisted of:
303 Black cars (36%) – 135 delimited – 97 were delivered on double spokes.
538 Silver cars (64%) – 223 delimited – 205 were delivered on double spokes.
Thus of the production run 43% were delimited and 36% were delivered on double spoke wheels.

German market L801A cars – 355 cars (42%)
Japanese market L807A cars – 152 cars (18%)
Gulf market L822A cars – 3 cars (3%)
Egyptian market L821A cars – 1 car (development vehicle)
The remaining cars didn’t have a market option code, so the following numbers are based upon the language in the “literature packs”

German literature, but not a German home market car – 159 cars (19%)
English literature – 19 cars (2%)
French literature – 62 cars (7%)
Italian literature – 71 cars (8%)
Spanish literature – 19 cars (2%)

The first LHD test car is shown as built on 17/9/2002 with the first production car coming off the line on 04/6/2003. There were 10 German market Press vehicles produced in the lead up to the main production run between 05/05/2003 > 08/05/2003 and 1 pre-production car coming off on the 03/06/2003, the day before the main production run started. The last LHD car made (JB98842) was a silver car on 19/12/2003 and was listed as a German market development vehicle which I presume was to be kept in some form of museum. Thus the last saleable production car was (JC98841) and was also made on 19/12/2003. It was a silver car that went to Japan.

There was 1 LHD stripped out road racer i.e. no options selected at all, a silver car with French language and literature pack car. This car didn’t have any of the “selectable options” of:
Radio
Mini disk player
CD player
Air Conditioning
Xenon lights
Rain sensor
PDC
Headlight Cleaning
Toll mirror (Japanese option only)
Smokers pack
Velour mats
Climate comfort windscreen
Green tint band windscreen
Alarm system
Deleted model lettering
Delimited

However, there was a silver car (Italian) that was also stripped of all options as listed above, except it was delimited whereas the French car wasn’t.

There were 8 cars fitted with 2 stage brake lights in the last couple of weeks of production, 1 black and 7 silver. All of these vehicles went to Japan.
The last LHD black car made (17/12/2003) was a delimited car that had German language and literature pack without a front number plate support. The car doesn’t have a country code so I can’t be sure where it went.

The production spilt by month is as shown below. However it must be noted that there were many LHD cars didn't come off the line in VIN sequence, it appears as though these had "rework faults" to rectify or were waiting parts. It was very rare for a RHD vehicle’s production date to be out of sequence to the build date of the cars’ produced around it, but it was not too uncommon with the LHD build, however it did improve as the production went on. Thus the VIN numbers listed below are a guide based upon the build date sequencing with the VIN.

Build Quantity First VIN Last VIN
Sep-02 3 - JB98000 JB98002
Oct-02 3 - JB98003 JB98005
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 5 - JB98006 JB98010
Jan-03 4 - JB98011 JB98014
Feb-03 4 - JB98015 JB98018
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 10 - JB98019 JB98028
Jun-03 126 - JB98029 JB98159
Jul-03 217 - JB98160 JB98372
Aug-03 41 - JB98368 JB98414
Sep-03 169 - JB98415 JB98587
Oct-03 108 - JB98588 JB98693
Nov-03 71 - JB98694 JB98762
Dec-03 80 - JB98763 JB98842

German L801A vehicles

355 German cars were made including the 35 “data restricted cars” some of which were made in 2002. Of these:
148 (42%) of these were black, 73 of these were delimited and 41 were on double spokes.
207 (58%) of these were silver, 109 were delimited and 45 were on double spokes.
Thus 51% were delimited and 24% delivered with double spokes.

182 vehicles were delimited
205 had an alarm
76 had deleted model lettering
98 had green tinted upper windscreen
156 had a climate comfort windscreen
290 had floor mats
189 had the smokers pack
318 had headlight cleaning system
217 had PDC
277 had a rain sensor
316 had xenon lights
315 had air conditioning
349 had KPH speedo
301 had a CD player
2 had a mini disk player
48 were delivered with a battery master switch
1 was made with a seat belt warning reminder (development vehicle)
15 were official press vehicles
5 were photo vehicles (all development vehicles)
178 had the omission of outer skin preservation
1 had the despatch protection pack
1 had “Special BMW individual equipment” but doesn’t list what it was.
1 had control of number plate attachment (number plate locks)
2 pre-production vehicles had Titanium interior strips.
All had warning triangle and first aid kit

German L801A vehicle Build Month by Month

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 2 - JB98000 JB98001
Oct-02 3 - JB98003 JB98005
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 4 - JB98006 JB98009
Jan-03 3 - JB98011 JB98013
Feb-03 4 - JB98015 JB98018
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 10 - JB98019 JB98028
Jun-03 126 - JB98029 JB98159
Jul-03 217 - JB98160 JB98372
Aug-03 17 - JB98379 JB98414
Sep-03 166 - JB98416 JB98585
Oct-03 33 - JB98588 JB98632
Nov-03 11 - JB98695 JB98671
Dec-03 34 - JB98763 JB98842



Japanese L807A vehicles
152 Japanese cars were made including the 3 “data restricted cars” one of which was made in 2002. Of these:
28 (18%) of these were black, none were delimited and all production vehicles were on double spokes, two preproduction weren’t.
124 (82%) of these were silver, 1 was delimited and all were delivered on double spokes.

148 had a green tinted band windscreen
4 had a climate comfort windscreen
102 had the smokers package
83 had the interior toll mirror for Japan
43 had headlight cleaning system
43 had PDC
61 had a rain sensor
8 had two stage stop lamps
47 had CD players
105 had mini disk players
1 was a photo vehicle
All had control of number plate attachments
All had acoustic seat belt reminders
All were shipped with a battery master switch
All had a radio
All had air conditioning
All had xenon lights
All had floor mats
All had a warning triangle and first aid kit
All production vehicles had the CSL model designation
None were fitted with alarms

Japanese L807A vehicles Build Month by Month

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 1 - JB98002 JB98002
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 1 - JB98014 JB98014
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 1 - JB98139 JB98139
Jul-03 29 - JB98036 JB98339
Aug-03 0 -
Sep-03 47 - JB98425 JB98579
Oct-03 34 - JB98643 JB98692
Nov-03 31 - JB98697 JB98735
Dec-03 8 - JB98006 JB98841


Gulf L822A versions

3 Gulf vehicles were made, of these:
1 of these was black, which wasn’t delimited and delivered on double spokes.
2 of these were silver, neither was delimited and 1 was delivered on double spokes.

2 had alarm systems
2 had warning triangle and first aid kits
2 had smokers package
2 had headlight cleaning system
2 had CD player
1 had a Arabic literature pack
All had a radio
All had PDC
All had rain sensor
All had air conditioning
All had xenon lights
All had climate comfort windscreen
All had floor mats
All had acoustic seatbelt reminders
All had the model code year in VIN
All were shipped with a despatch protection pack
All were shipped with a battery master switch

Gulf L822A vehicles build Month by Month

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 0 -
Jul-03 1 - JB98332 JB98332
Aug-03 1 - JB98376 JB98376
Sep-03 1 - JB98465 JB98465
Oct-03 0 -
Nov-03 0 -
Dec-03 0 -


Egypt L821A cars
There was 1 Egyptian car produced on 13/12/2002 as a development vehicle. It had the following options:
Sapphire black
Deleted model lettering
Floor mats
Warning triangle and first aid kit
Headlight cleaning system
PDC
Rain sensor
Xenon lights
KPH speedo
Air conditioning
Radio
It was shipped with a battery master switch
Arabic literature
Control of number plate attachment


That leaves 330 unknown market LHD vehicles. I will break these down according to their literature packs as this is the best way to try and determine where they went.

German on board literature, but not designated as German Market vehicles.

113 unknown market cars were supplied with German Language literature.
41 (36%) of these were black, 38 were delimited and 3 vehicles were delivered on double spokes.
72 (64%) of these were silver, 64 were delimited and none were delivered on double spokes.
Thus 90% were delimited and 2% were delivered on double spokes.

57 had the coil on plug option (emissions, not user selectable)
61 had an alarm
17 had deleted model lettering
23 had upper green tinted windscreen
52 had climate comfort windscreen
81 had floor mats
24 had a warning triangle and first aid kit
30 had the smokers’ package
97 had the headlight cleaning system
53 had PDC
70 had rain sensor
97 had xenon lights
110 had air conditioning
108 had CD player
1 had a mini disk player
6 had acoustic seat belt reminders
106 had the German language version
7 had the English language version
9 had the rear O2 sensors disabled (emissions, not user selectable)
13 had daytime driving lights
94 had the omission of outer skin preservation
87 had the deleted front licence plate support
56 had a CO2 control unit (emissions, not user selectable)
18 were shipped with battery master switches

German on board literature vehicles, but not designated as German Market vehicles build month by month

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 20 - JB98043 JB98156
Jul-03 28 - JB98144 JB98366
Aug-03 1 - JB98375 JB69375
Sep-03 10 - JB98457 JB98587
Oct-03 22 - JB98597 JB98673
Nov-03 18 - JB98694 JB98762
Dec-03 14 - JB98766 JB98831


English on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code.

12 unknown market cars were supplied with English Language literature.
1 of these was black, it wasn’t delimited and not delivered on double spokes.
11 of these were silver, 4 were delimited and 1 was delivered on double spokes.

11 had an alarm
11 had headlight cleaning system
1 had a green tinted upper windscreen
9 had a climate comfort windscreen
11 had floor mats
9 had first aid kit and triangle
9 had the smokers’ package
10 had CD player
11 had radio
11 had PDC
11 had rain sensor
11 had xenon lights
11 had air conditioning
5 had additional fuel in tank
1 had German language version, remainder English
7 had the rear O2 sensors disabled (emissions, not user selectable)
1 had the omission of outer skin preservation
1 had deleted front number plate support
None had deleted model lettering
All had KPH speedos
1 was shipped with a battery master switch

English on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code build Month by Month.

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 5 - JB98042 JB98112
Jul-03 0 -
Aug-03 5 - JB98377 JB98407
Sep-03 2 - JB98424 JB98554
Oct-03 0 -
Nov-03 0 -
Dec-03 0 -


French on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code.

67 unknown market cars were supplied with French Language literature.
28 (42%) of these were black, 9 were delimited and 7 were delivered on double spokes.
39 (58%) of these were silver, 11 were delimited and 6 were delivered on double spokes.
Thus 30% were delimited and 19% supplied with double spokes.

44 had an alarm
10 had deleted model lettering
11 had green tinted upper windscreen
19 had climate comfort windscreen
26 had floor mats
12 had a warning triangle and first aid kit
32 had the smokers’ package
60 had the headlight cleaning system
26 had PDC
43 had a rain sensor
59 had xenon lights
65 had air conditioning
56 had a CD player
61 had a radio
5 had the German language version, but French literature pack.
27 had the “Omission of non-combined operation” (emissions, no user selectable)
56 had the omission of outer skin preservation
10 had the deleted front number plate support
27 were shipped with a battery master switch
None had a mini disk player

French on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code build Month by Month.

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 7 - JB98063 JB98146
Jul-03 16 - JB98204 JB98363
Aug-03 9 - JB98368 JB98405
Sep-03 13 - JB98415 JB98540
Oct-03 10 - JB98605 JB98679
Nov-03 6 - JB98737 JB98757
Dec-03 6 - JB98778 JB98817



Spanish on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code.

19 unknown market cars were supplied with Spanish Language literature.
6 (32%) of these were black, none were delimited and 1 was delivered on double spokes.
13 (68%) of these were silver, 5 were delimited and 1 was delivered on double spokes.
Thus 26% were delimited and 10% were supplied on double spokes.

5 had an alarm system
None had deleted model lettering
3 had green tinted upper windscreen
None had climate comfort windscreen
5 had floor mats
2 had warning triangle and first aid kit
1 had the smokers’ package
7 had the headlight cleaning system
2 had PDC
5 had a rain sensor
8 had xenon lights
16 had air conditioning
10 had a CD player
12 had a radio
3 had the “Omission of non-combined operation” (emissions, no user selectable)
12 were shipped with a battery master switch

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 0 -
Jul-03 3 - JB98300 JB98347
Aug-03 1 - JB98388 JB98388
Sep-03 0 -
Oct-03 5 - JB98640 JB98677
Nov-03 0 -
Dec-03 7 - JB98777 JB98795



Italian on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code.

71 unknown market cars were supplied with Italian Language literature.
41 (58%) of these were black, 12 were delimited and 12 were delivered on double spokes.
30 (42%) of these were silver, 18 were delimited and 6 were delivered on double spokes.
Thus 42% were delimited and 25% were supplied on double spokes.

27 had an alarm
6 had deleted model lettering
3 had a green tinted upper windscreen
7 had a climate comfort windscreen
11 had floor mats
24 had the smokers’ pack
59 had headlight cleaning system
26 had PDC
40 had a rain sensor
59 had xenon lights
66 had air conditioning
57 had a CD player
68 had a radio
31 were shipped with a battery master switch
6 had the “Omission of non-combined operation” (emissions, no user selectable)
2 were designated with the press vehicle option, (their production date was out of sequence i.e. they took longer to come off the production line)
1 was allocated as a photo vehicle (its production date was out of sequence i.e. it took longer to come off the production line)
9 had the deleted front licence plate support
All had a KPH speedo
None had a warning triangle or first aid kit
None had a mini disk player

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 19 - JB98053 JB98136
Jul-03 35 - JB98169 JB98357
Aug-03 2 - JB98387 JB98398
Sep-03 5 - JB98490 JB98586
Oct-03 3 - JB98426 JB98674
Nov-03 4 - JB98560 JB98756
Dec-03 3 - JB98765 JB98776


Swedish on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code.

15 unknown market cars were supplied with Swedish Language literature.
None of these were black.
All of these were silver, 4 were delimited and 6 were delivered on double spokes.
Thus 27% were delimited and 40% were supplied on double spokes.

5 had a green tinted upper windscreen
1 had a climate comfort windscreen
10 had floor mats
5 had PDC
None had a warning triangle or first aid kit
All had an alarm system
All had headlight cleaning system
All had rain sensor
All had xenon lights
All had air conditioning
All had KPH speedo
All had a CD player
All had a radio
All had the German version language
All had daytime driving lights
1 was a designated press vehicle
All were shipped with despatch protection
9 were shipped with a battery master switch

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 5 - JB98040 JB98067
Jul-03 3 - JB98038 JB98284
Aug-03 0 -
Sep-03 6 - JB98488 JB98520
Oct-03 0 -
Nov-03 0 -
Dec-03 1 - JB98840 JB98840


Dutch on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code.

28 unknown market cars were supplied with Dutch Language literature.
7 (25%) of these were black, 2 were delimited and 6 were delivered on double spokes.
21 (75%) of these were silver, 7 were delimited and 13 were delivered on double spokes.
Thus 32% were delimited and 68% were supplied on double spokes.

27 had an alarm
2 had deleted model lettering
4 had a green tinted upper windscreen
11 had a climate comfort windscreen
12 had floor mats
12 had a warning triangle and first aid kit
23 had the smokers’ package
24 had headlight cleaning system
17 had PDC
21 had a rain sensor
24 had xenon lights
25 had air conditioning
24 had a CD player
9 were shipped with a battery master switch
27 had German language version
1 had English language version
20 had the “Omission of non-combined operation” (emissions, not user selectable)
2 had daytime driving lights
10 had the “Omission of outer skin preservation” (not user selectable)
All had a radio
All had a KPH speedo

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 3 - JB98089 JB98138
Jul-03 10 - JB98195 JB98367
Aug-03 4 - JB98389 JB98406
Sep-03 2 - JB98423 JB98445
Oct-03 1 - JB98693 JB98693
Nov-03 1 - JB98738 JB98738
Dec-03 7 - JB98779 JB98796



Danish on board literature vehicles, without a designated market code.

5 unknown market cars were supplied with Danish Language literature.
1 (20%) of these was black, which was delimited and not delivered on double spokes.
4 (80%) of these were silver, none were delimited and none were delivered on double spokes.

3 had an alarm system
1 had a green tinted upper windscreen
1 had a climate comfort windscreen
1 had floor mats
3 had a warning triangle and first aid kit
2 had the smokers’ package
4 had headlight cleaning system
1 had PDC
3 had rain sensor
4 had xenon lights
4 had a CD player
4 had a radio
3 were shipped with a battery master switch
3 were shipped with the despatch protection pack
All had day time driving lights
All had air conditioning
All had KPH speedo
None had deleted model lettering

Build Quantity First Vin Last VIN
Sep-02 0 -
Oct-02 0 -
Nov-02 0 -
Dec-02 0 -
Jan-03 0 -
Feb-03 0 -
Mar-03 0 -
Apr-03 0 -
May-03 0 -
Jun-03 0 -
Jul-03 1 - JB98338 JB98338
Aug-03 1 - JB98392 JB98392
Sep-03 3 - JB98477 JB98494
Oct-03 0 -
Nov-03 0 -
Dec-03 0 -


And after many hours (days) that rounds out the LHD CSL production data and the final chapter in my cataloguing of the entire CSL production run. I have found it interesting in looking at the results, it is a pity BMW don’t make this sort of information freely available. In any case, let me know if I have been bereft of detail anywhere