Help at Spa/Ring 2010

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by TANKSLAPPER

Duncan, your nuts ! !

Special?

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by mattCSLnut

All interesting stuff Shimmy , received with THANX however calling a CSL "Heavy" sounds a touch mad (remember it's a 4 seater ) + Z4M s are a bit heavier (1495 kg unladen, against CSLs 1460 kg) for a base , no speck car, however most Z4M have Pro Sat Nav, Bluetooth, electric this & that which tips them well over the 1500 kg, with ease. That's "Heavy" for a 2 seater, no disrespect to the Z4M owners, or their car which I happen to like.

If the z4m was good after 3 laps on the 888 then you were driving it like pussies.

888 are ok but go off after 3 ish hard laps, very quickly.

They may be ok i my m3 now its lighter than a csl.

Ill have to try them.

[mattCSLnut]

Originally Posted by glendog74

For track work purposes, most modern 'M's are considered heavy; CSL included. They all work their tyres (and indeed brakes) hard in standard form.

"Health & Safety" is to blame for that I guess . Over the years all cars have grown in size and inevitably put on weight however they have also increased in power . I know it would be NICE to have a 1000 kg CSL like the original E30 m3 but with the "safety in mind" way the E46 is constructed, it's going to be hard work to achieve that for a "Fast Road/Track" M3 CSL. The current M3 convertible or the M6/M5 are heavy so in relative terms the M3 CSL should be though of as a medium light weight

[TANKSLAPPER]

Originally Posted by lawsy

my m3 now its lighter than a csl.

Don't forget your beer belly.....

[DuncanR]

Originally Posted by TANKSLAPPER

Don't forget your beer belly.....

I will bring one of those with me, you are all welcome to keep it in good nick and topped up !!!

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by TANKSLAPPER

Don't forget your beer belly.....

Yeh weighing a small 108kg myself makes all my weight saving worthless.

I think I need to chop my other arm off and steer with my dick, , to give me some value for money.

NO beer gut for me, although I could do with trimming up, I eat like a bear over the winter

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by mattCSLnut

All interesting stuff Shimmy , received with THANX however calling a CSL "Heavy" sounds a touch mad (remember it's a 4 seater ) + Z4M s are a bit heavier (1495 kg unladen, against CSLs 1460 kg) for a base , no speck car, however most Z4M have Pro Sat Nav, Bluetooth, electric this & that which tips them well over the 1500 kg, with ease. That's "Heavy" for a 2 seater, no disrespect to the Z4M owners, or their car which I happen to like.

CSL is definitely in the HEAVY range,

[mattCSLnut]

Originally Posted by shimmy

CSL is definitely in the HEAVY range,

So, if the M3 CSL is in the heavy range, where does the M5, M6 & the M3 Cabriolet fit then ?

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by mattCSLnut

So, if the M3 CSL is in the heavy range, where does the M5, M6 & the M3 Cabriolet fit then ?

Cruise liner

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by mattCSLnut

So, if the M3 CSL is in the heavy range, where does the M5, M6 & the M3 Cabriolet fit then ?

Super heavy weights.