running slicks with 18's ????

[alexk]

Originally Posted by Thorney

I didn't think I was having a go at anyone? However I wasn't really referring to pick up, I was thinking more of the tyre wear around that, I wasn't referring to your car as anything other than an example, sorry if you took that as negative, it was not intended that way. My point was that running slicks works up to a point and that it was not completely without some risk (which is negated by checking the car) that's all but it was an option when wanting to have more fun on track.

As for laptimes and comparing to other cars on track, well that's not something I do, for a start 90% of a lap time is the driver, always has, always will so I never compare car to car on track as its moot. Unless of course it's racing and that is more than times, its who finishes ahead, not an attitude I think would go down well on a track day!

Running slicks does add fun, but if the desire is to be faster then there are other ways of doing it, thats not to say running slicks is wrong, far from it, just one option when looking for faster times. Thats all I was trying to get across.

No John, I didn't say that you were negative or having a go (sorry if my tone indicated something like this).
Quite the contrary, your input is very good
And of course you have far more experience than me

Shimmy, all good mate.
John is making very valid points. I don't disagree that fresh cups could make faster laps (you mentioned that curly has tried them extensively).
However, give them a try at some point

[_Nathan_]

Originally Posted by titan

I went around the outside of him like he wasn't trying.

So timing is bad but overtaking mid corner is ok

I find slicks more progressive than cups!

[shimmy]

Coram is not a corner!!!!

[_Nathan_]

Go faster then :P

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

Go faster then :P

I do try!

It is a bent straight!

[Curly]

Originally Posted by shimmy

Alex, i dont think John was having a go!

I think the point being if it is speed you are after with slicks then where slicks get alot of their speed from is running with firm springs, rigid caged car, and the right geo.

I spent alot of time with Dontdobends who was running his m3 race car and previously his CSL on used slicks and i think Johns conclusion was that on a non race car (or non set up race car) used slicks were more or less comparable to new Cups for outright pace, maybe with a slight advantage with slicks if you have a/m suspension

id love to give slicks a go tbh, and maybe next year i might break my rule and run some somewhere or i may have to just wait fior a race drive

Yeah I was running part worn slicks but for me it was due mainly to cost saving like Thorney says after about 5 heat cycles you do lose a lot of grip over a new slick. Sometimes my slicks would be up to 15-18 heat cycles and the rubber would be as hard as a dogs head and would be a lot slower than a new cup, you have to run a lot of camber with a slick to get the best out of it. Put a new set of cups with 3.5 degree of camber and the thing will grip

[titan]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

So timing is bad but overtaking mid corner is ok

If the indicator is on, its fair game. If its off, its fair game ;-)

[_Nathan_]

Well the GT3 driver wasn't on the limit then as

a) they'd not be putting the indicator on
b) they be using lots of track rather than giving you room to get by

Love that corner

[DuncanR]

Originally Posted by dontdobends

Put a new set of cups with 3.5 degree of camber and the thing will grip

+ 1 and amen there mate ! ...but make the most of em cos it wont last !!.

My thought on the issue would be that whilst you may be running slicks, and I do want to give them a go.... you dont HAVE to try and drive to the limit of their adhesion... just to the point where your sphincter loosens up just a tad !!! .. I would take the same view as when I first started driving my CSL just a year ago .. take it a step at a time .. if you make a reasonable change to your usual driving setup ... give yourself chance to learn and appreciate it first ! ... once you have the confidence ... THEN give it the beans ..... and s**t yaself !!

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by DuncanR

+ 1 and amen there mate ! ...but make the most of em cos it wont last !!.

My thought on the issue would be that whilst you may be running slicks, and I do want to give them a go.... you dont HAVE to try and drive to the limit of their adhesion... just to the point where your sphincter loosens up just a tad !!! .. I would take the same view as when I first started driving my CSL just a year ago .. take it a step at a time .. if you make a reasonable change to your usual driving setup ... give yourself chance to learn and appreciate it first ! ... once you have the confidence ... THEN give it the beans ..... and s**t yaself !!

amen to that mutherfucker, my dick just got hard

(sorry been watching Jarhead!)