First Trackday - Page 3

**Mike R** · 12-09-2018, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scoobs998

Apologies Chad for the thread hijack but i am in a very similar boat!
First track day coming up on 17th Sept at Castle Combe and have Silverstone booked for 25th Nov.
My current brake setup is Front KSport big brake kit with EBC Bluestuff pads
Porsche/Brembo rear 4 pot caliper conversion. MPSS tyres fitted. Thoughts for my up coming days aprreciated also

Kev

You haven't mentioned fluid?

scoobs998 · 12-09-2018, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike R

You haven't mentioned fluid?

Doh ..... Currently running with ATE TYPE 200.

**CraigMillwardCroft** · 12-09-2018, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by phoenixcsl

You'll be fine on those, I'd drop the pressures out of them and run them at something like 30psi hot.

You won't have the same grip as Cups or Cup2, and they will probably go off quicker, but you'll still have fun, just trash them and go home happy!

**Mike R** · 13-09-2018, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by scoobs998

Doh ..... Currently running with ATE TYPE 200.

Well put it this way, the wet boiling point of Castrol SRF is within a few degrees of the dry boiling point of the above.......

scoobs998 · 13-09-2018, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike R

Well put it this way, the wet boiling point of Castrol SRF is within a few degrees of the dry boiling point of the above.......

Understood ! Do you think a first timer / novice will have a problem? Change regardless?

Chad · 13-09-2018, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by scoobs998

Understood ! Do you think a first timer / novice will have a problem? Change regardless?

My castrol srf arrived yesterday cheapest I could find £49 inc delivery. Will run this through to the lines this weekend. As I’ve got a full set new oem brake hose lines Will probably fit these at the same time ,,,

**Mike R** · 13-09-2018, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by scoobs998

Understood ! Do you think a first timer / novice will have a problem? Change regardless?

It depends how hard you or the circuit are on brakes. Given that you could crash the car if the fluid boils (leading to a loss of pedal) or at the very least have a heart stopping moment, I don't think that it is worth skimping on for the sake of £49.

To me it is worth it for piece of mind and the prevention of turtle head moments

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I also don't like EBC pads (having had bad experiences of them years ago), but they may have improved since then. I don't think they belong on a car of this value

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phoenixcsl · 13-09-2018, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike R

It depends how hard you or the circuit are on brakes. Given that you could crash the car if the fluid boils (leading to a loss of pedal) or at the very least have a heart stopping moment, I don't think that it is worth skimping on for the sake of £49.

To me it is worth it for piece of mind and the prevention of turtle head moments

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I also don't like EBC pads (having had bad experiences of them years ago), but they may have improved since then. I don't think they belong on a car of this value

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I'm with Mike on this one, over the years i've tried all kinds of fluid, AP, ATE Super Blue, Motul RBF600 etc.

I have had that moment myself years ago in my old E46 M3, pedal to the floor due to boiled fluid, nearly crashed, I absolutely cacked my pants, honestly thought I was a goner.

SRF is by far the most consistent, I've used it in all my cars for years, ideally it needs changing every year to keep it at it's best.

EBC pads are shocking, they melt, I had a set of rear EBC yellow in my old i8, I managed to melt them after 1 track session at Bedford, I can't even sell them for £5 on eBay as no one will bid, not much better compound than a OEM pad imo.

phoenixcsl · 13-09-2018, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chad

My castrol srf arrived yesterday cheapest I could find £49 inc delivery. Will run this through to the lines this weekend. As I’ve got a full set new oem brake hose lines Will probably fit these at the same time ,,,

Good stuff mate, I'd probably say bleed all of the litre bottle through to make sure the old fluid is out, especially with new hoses.

I re-did my brakes on the weekend as i've just changed my calipers again to something else

Make sure you wd40 your bleed nipples (ooer) the night before, as they are notorious for siezing up.

select · 13-09-2018, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by scoobs998

Doh ..... Currently running with ATE TYPE 200.

Its plenty fine, sure castrol SRF has a higher boiling point.. but you need to change it annualy compared to the ATE which is fine with 2-3 years.

Also the boiling points are rather close.

# ATE Super Blue Racing: 280°C
# Castrol SRF Racing: 303°C

I've been using ATE for a few years now with pagid pads and i never had issues. Only that the paint on my calipers have become gold