Intrax 1k2 vs KW Clubsport

[northernjim]

Are you doing the mlr trackday at oulton then Lawsy?

I'll see you there in my tired old focus...

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by northernjim

Are you doing the mlr trackday at oulton then Lawsy?

I'll see you there in my tired old focus...

Yep sure am , dont know what in though,
csl going into murketts tomorrow, then need to fit suspension, bushes, and brakes.

Might end up doing it in the old astravan at this rate

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by lawsy

Yep sure am , dont know what in though,
csl going into murketts tomorrow, then need to fit suspension, bushes, and brakes.

Might end up doing it in the old astravan at this rate

Nothing wrong with astravan's

[Bounce]

Originally Posted by DazBlackCSL

Nothing wrong with astravan's

Not as good as a Transit though,

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by BOUNCE

Not as good as a Transit though,

granted

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by lawsy

I have run the KW clubsport for a year now with no issues, but think I might try something different on the CSL this year.

I am thinking of trying the intrax, has anyone gone this route or vice-versa?

Thanks

Not had any experience with intrax, only watching curly explode in a ball of smoke in front of me at brands last year when his went BOOM in the race !

Had V3 to start with, now on a clubsport kit / paired with race struts / springs and innners, so a hybrid mix of clubsport and two way race set up (for the road a bit much) dont forget with the clubsports you can change the spring rates too to get an optimum set up ..

Raced on two way KW race kit last year, and all I can say is the most important thing is setting it up correctly, getting the best out of it, sound simple but unless you have a suspension expert with you at track it's so easy to have a bad experience or dislike a kit if it's not set up perfectly .. think rob will back me up on this

Been really happy with my new set up, looking forward to getting to grips and tweaking a bit more this year.

As all have already said it appears the intrax are easier to adjust BUT, the KW's are independently adjustable for both bump and rebound, dont think the intrax is ? so you can get a perfectly balanced set up for diff tracks.

KW also has stainless steel housing, which is a must for long life road use, there are some developments coming with the adjusters due sometime this year I think, so will address ease of adjustment.

You get what you pay for I guess, there is better out there Moton etc , but they dont offer a road/ race kit and are big £££.

You can tell im still on the sofa and the missus is shopping

Might be porn time

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by dontdobends

plus hazy is now had problems with the kw's and as far as i know kw clubsport dont carry a warranty

What issue's has Hazy had then John ?

[_Nathan_]

Hazy said on another forum they'd had 2 failed dampers - no idea what the nature of those was though.

You can change the spring rate with 1k2s without revalving, they have a huge range of damping adjustment. You can also choose from Ali, steel or titanium bodies.



1k2 have a single adjuster which moves bump and rebound along a pre-defined damping curve, the ability to separately alter rebound, slow bump and fast bump comes further up the model range and to be honest is more than I think is required for trackdays, and for those of us who can't yet drive the car to 100% consistantly (myself included). In my opinion it is miles easier to mess up a set up with more options, with 1K2 you can quickly make changes with no Allan keys and are less likely to end up with a clown car


I assume your more extreme hybrid setup isn't under warranty either daz?

[_Nathan_]

PS. KW race stuff can be used to great effect though, check out the Torquespeed CSL, feckin rapid!

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

Hazy said on another forum they'd had 2 failed dampers - no idea what the nature of those was though.

You can change the spring rate with 1k2s without revalving, they have a huge range of damping adjustment. You can also choose from Ali, steel or titanium bodies.



1k2 have a single adjuster which moves bump and rebound along a pre-defined damping curve, the ability to separately alter rebound, slow bump and fast bump comes further up the model range and to be honest is more than I think is required for trackdays, and for those of us who can't yet drive the car to 100% consistantly (myself included). In my opinion it is miles easier to mess up a set up with more options, with 1K2 you can quickly make changes with no Allan keys and are less likely to end up with a clown car


I assume your more extreme hybrid setup isn't under warranty either daz?

Yeah very true mate, agreed, I found myself doing a lot of trail and error last year, BUT from my experience the KW team are V helpful, and present on most race weekends, and give you access to the tech race team guys who are also around, dont ever see any moton / intrax guys anywhere, but not knocking the product as obviously many on hear are happy with the kit, they just helped me loads last year and helped me develop the car to my driving style, and im not an experienced racer either so needed all the help I could get !! at donny where my car was not feeling good in practice and qually, they helped me with set up, listened to what I wanted and how the car felt, and made some quick adjustments and car was so much better.

Kit is covered, prob not officially but you'll find them very helpful on a one to one basis in the event of any issues