AP Racing vs. Brembo monoblock

[david]

Not bad, I just had a look about the AP

6kg for the caliper 6 pots (with braker and pads + brake line)
and 10.4kg for the 378mm x 36mm rotor

[danr55]

Is there an option of either 356mm or 378mm discs for the APs? I seem to have seen people refer to both.

Ade, why do you find the ferodos so bad, just interested as I know there's mixed reviews on them?

[david]

I dont know if you can have option between 365 or 378, this AP kit a have, is referenced for M3 E92 V8, I'm pretty confident to get it easely fixed to my E46 Csl soon. we will see

[XPorker]

My previous experiences with Ferodo DS2500 pads found them "wanting" under duress . . . .
I think they're a fast road pad rather than an endurance race pad like the RS29s. The DS 3000 is a far superior pad, but isn't kind to discs or wheels.
No such problems with RS 29s, (though they squealed when fitted to the AP four pots on the rear of the car) I therefore ditched them and now run RS29s in the front (six pot) calipers and DS 2500 in the rears.

So if anyone wants a set of RS29s to fit the rear AP four pot conversion I have a set that's done less than a thousand miles. PM me.

[shimmy]

did you know BREMBO own AP RACING

[david]

I find the setup with Pagid RS5/DS2500 front/rear or RS29 front/ DS 2500 rear excellent, the DS3000 are too agressive for the rotor and they melt fast and get rotten in a year with a few good trackdays...

[shimmy]

with my extensive testing (sort of) i find that RS14 front and DS2500 rears are the best road/track pad combination

if only track being done then Rs29 or PF01 may beat the Rs14 due to longer lasting and squeaking not relevant

i agree that you should avoid using DS2500 on the FRONT on track days due to pad deposits and avoid using Ds3000 all together due to corrosive effect on rims

[Ade]

Originally Posted by shimmy

i agree that you should avoid using DS2500 on the FRONT on track days due to pad deposits

That's exactly it.

The DS2500s practically melted themselves onto the discs under use at the 'Ring. And before people start saying I was braking too hard, perhaps, but Glendog can attest we weren't hanging around.

I'm now having to clean the pad deposits slowly off the discs

The DS2500s are ok for road use, but they are definitely NOT up to the task of repeated full force braking on track when 'going for it'.

No such problems at all with the RS29s which are a proper race spec pad.

[danr55]

Originally Posted by Ade

That's exactly it.

The DS2500s practically melted themselves onto the discs under use at the 'Ring. And before people start saying I was braking too hard, perhaps, but Glendog can attest we weren't hanging around.

I'm now having to clean the pad deposits slowly off the discs

The DS2500s are ok for road use, but they are definitely NOT up to the task of repeated full force braking on track when 'going for it'.

No such problems at all with the RS29s which are a proper race spec pad.

Appreciate the feedback will take it into account when it's upgrade time

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by Ade

Glendog can attest we weren't hanging around.

Agree with all comments about DS2500 - fine for road but pushed to their limits during hard track use.

I use RS29's all-round at the moment coz my car has been a bit of a track whore of late...