CSL for manual conversion - Page 2

Chappers · 01-02-2019, 07:21 PM

That’s the thing isn’t it. If it were a rifle bolt action box like a mk1 mx5 it would be an easy decision. It’s the fact that you’d be changing to a sloppy, notchy thing that puts me off. I think the best option I’ve found is the UUC one because it will still look OEM unlike the crazy CAE ones.

I’ll probably never put my money where my mouth is though.

breeze · 05-02-2019, 08:23 PM

As others have said, the e46 M3 manual gearbox isn't amazing...

Jonmitch · 07-02-2019, 04:11 PM

Its great that the CSL came with SMG because everyone who now owns one prefers it.

Of course, if they had offered manual and SMG, the manuals would now be worth a fortune and tucked up as garage queen investments for all bar a tiny minority.

So in a funny way, SMG-only now works quite well if you want to use a manual CSL.

terraphantm · 27-02-2019, 04:04 AM

Basic process is the same as converting any M3 to manual. Main complication is that there's no factory engine calibration meant for a manual CSL. But you only have to change a few bytes to get it to run in manual mode, so that's not really an issue anyway.

If you want a smoother gearbox than the M3 gearbox, the Z4M transmission is an option. You would use the shift linkage from a 330 6-speed to get that transmission to work.

Alx · 18-08-2019, 06:34 PM

Someone is actually attempting to convert an M3 CSL with a manual gearbox:

https://instagram.com/mrdjd?igshid=hky54n97vqfi

https://instagram.com/theadventureso...=1k7ql723uawdk

Looking forward to seeing the final result!

Chappers · 18-08-2019, 09:17 PM

Attempting? We’re very much succeeding...

Alx · 18-08-2019, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappers

Attempting? We’re very much succeeding...

Sorry for my bad English...

Could you please post pictures of the different steps involved and what is done to reprogram the software?

Chappers · 18-08-2019, 10:35 PM

Sorry I meant to add one of these at the end:

. Yes I’ll be posting a full build thread once we’re finished, unfortunately we ran out of time today but hopefully will be finishing tomorrow.

**glendog74** · 19-08-2019, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeycsl

Had a manual m3 rubbish shift very stiff and notchy.
Maybe improved with short shifter who knows?
I replaced oil,bushes and a m5 shorter stick very little improvement.
I personally would not bother.

Snap. I had similar experience and never enjoyed my manual E46 M3 as much as the CSL.

**Mike R** · 19-08-2019, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappers

Sorry I meant to add one of these at the end:

. Yes I’ll be posting a full build thread once we’re finished, unfortunately we ran out of time today but hopefully will be finishing tomorrow.

HTFU

01-02-2019, 07:21 PM	#11
Chappers S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 388 Casino cash: $9894	That’s the thing isn’t it. If it were a rifle bolt action box like a mk1 mx5 it would be an easy decision. It’s the fact that you’d be changing to a sloppy, notchy thing that puts me off. I think the best option I’ve found is the UUC one because it will still look OEM unlike the crazy CAE ones. I’ll probably never put my money where my mouth is though. __________________ 5.3 earth circumferences done, roll on number 6...

18-08-2019, 06:34 PM	#15
Alx S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 487 Casino cash: $25206	Someone is actually attempting to convert an M3 CSL with a manual gearbox: https://instagram.com/mrdjd?igshid=hky54n97vqfi https://instagram.com/theadventureso...=1k7ql723uawdk Looking forward to seeing the final result! __________________ ///Alex

18-08-2019, 09:17 PM	#16
Chappers S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 388 Casino cash: $9894	Attempting? We’re very much succeeding... __________________ 5.3 earth circumferences done, roll on number 6...

18-08-2019, 10:35 PM	#18
Chappers S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 388 Casino cash: $9894	Sorry I meant to add one of these at the end: . Yes I’ll be posting a full build thread once we’re finished, unfortunately we ran out of time today but hopefully will be finishing tomorrow. __________________ 5.3 earth circumferences done, roll on number 6...

05-02-2019, 08:23 PM	#12
breeze S3 - On the open road Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 102 Casino cash: $5788	As others have said, the e46 M3 manual gearbox isn't amazing...

07-02-2019, 04:11 PM	#13
Jonmitch Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 11 Casino cash: $897	Its great that the CSL came with SMG because everyone who now owns one prefers it. Of course, if they had offered manual and SMG, the manuals would now be worth a fortune and tucked up as garage queen investments for all bar a tiny minority. So in a funny way, SMG-only now works quite well if you want to use a manual CSL.

27-02-2019, 04:04 AM	#14
terraphantm S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 40 Casino cash: $400	Basic process is the same as converting any M3 to manual. Main complication is that there's no factory engine calibration meant for a manual CSL. But you only have to change a few bytes to get it to run in manual mode, so that's not really an issue anyway. If you want a smoother gearbox than the M3 gearbox, the Z4M transmission is an option. You would use the shift linkage from a 330 6-speed to get that transmission to work.