1M to csl.... Dangerous? - Page 2

s1csl · 17-10-2014, 09:35 PM

When is the price of the 1M going to come down so I can buy 1

s.mac · 17-10-2014, 09:45 PM

I agree with Peter

Pip1968 · 19-10-2014, 09:19 AM

Shimmy is the number plate/history icon for future queries.

As for CSL being a track car only for enjoyment purposes I disagree. Progressive driving on the road and open roads are also best enjoyed in a CSL. If you want a raw driving experience get a CSL.

There must be a few others around for sale. I did a review of prices of them earlier this year that Mark put in the member's section. There must have been 10-15 for sale then. Surely they are not all gone - ??

Pip

billyboysm3 · 19-10-2014, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MCSL

I had a 1M as well as the CSL up until a few months ago when i sold the 1M. The 1M is okay, but nothing special - a bit overhyped maybe? The CSL is much more driver-focused. All depends what you want from the car - if using daily and you like the latest toys and gizmo's then i'd say keep the 1M, but if you're looking for something to feed you a bit (lot?) more excitement, then the CSL will give you the 'motorsport' feeling that you can still sensibly use on the road. The e46 m3 was already a great car - the CSL made it an icon. Sadly one of the past that'll never be repeated.

eta - i've also owned an e43M3 CS - the CSL is night&day different - think C2S vs GT3 'different' to understand

Did you ever take the 1M on track?

For something less hardcore, to use a couple of times during the week, 3-5 track days a year and Europe trips, stack miles on it and the piece of mind that it can be fixed quickly, -apart from the Csl would you say it's worth buying?

SMD · 19-10-2014, 11:13 AM

Mod the 1M and then you have a special car?

**outnumbered** · 19-10-2014, 08:03 PM

My CSL is entirely used on the road.. And it's great. I don't drive it everyday, but it makes every trip an occasion. Even if it's just taking the kids to school.

I can see it being a bit wearing if you had to do long distances regularly on crap UK roads though. My kids did 900 miles in it coming back from Munich, and they only started complaining when we got on to the M20!

s1csl · 19-10-2014, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SMD

Mod the 1M and then you have a special car?

Are they the same mods that some people put on there CSL, ie cats, remap, brakes, exhaust, suspension, to make it special and quicker

MCSL · 19-10-2014, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by billyboysm3

Did you ever take the 1M on track?

For something less hardcore, to use a couple of times during the week, 3-5 track days a year and Europe trips, stack miles on it and the piece of mind that it can be fixed quickly, -apart from the Csl would you say it's worth buying?

Never took it on track. To be fair i did own it through Winter which is not the best climate for a rwd that already spins up at the best of times. The traction issue pissed me off - it suffered massively from grip at the rear. Apparently better rubber and a geo is supposed to help? Standard seats are a bit naff. A bit too quiet from the drivers seat too. Overall though it did look good, and was very quick in a straight line (makes me wonder if mine was remapped - it felt very quick for a 340hp car!). I possibly would of kept it longer but prices went up and i sold it for a small profit - first time i've ever made money on a car!!

But, I think for the rarity, looks, pace, minimal-deprecation and running costs - it's a good shout, but i have had and enjoyed other similar-priced cars more i.e. C63, Boxster-Spyder, and obviously - CSL.

**shimmy** · 19-10-2014, 08:33 PM

i have never driven the 1M whereas i think i have driven most other post 1990 M cars

i do wonder about having one occasionally i have to admit.

GregorJP · 19-10-2014, 10:06 PM

I test drove a 1M about a year ago with a view to perhaps trading in the CSL for it. It was very nice to drive, quick, torquey and felt like a mini-M3 on steroids. The interior was nicer than I had expected and I love small cars, so it had me sold. The fact that the dealer didn't really know what a CSL was didn't help the discussions about trade-in, and the financials didn't cut it for me.

But give me a choice between a 1M and a CSL and I'd take the CSL every time.

19-10-2014, 08:03 PM	#16
outnumbered S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Reading Posts: 731 Casino cash: $19587	My CSL is entirely used on the road.. And it's great. I don't drive it everyday, but it makes every trip an occasion. Even if it's just taking the kids to school. I can see it being a bit wearing if you had to do long distances regularly on crap UK roads though. My kids did 900 miles in it coming back from Munich, and they only started complaining when we got on to the M20! __________________ Now with added SG CSL.

19-10-2014, 08:33 PM	#19
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,646 Casino cash: $43909	i have never driven the 1M whereas i think i have driven most other post 1990 M cars i do wonder about having one occasionally i have to admit. __________________ .

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s1csl S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: suffolk Posts: 444 Casino cash: $3340	When is the price of the 1M going to come down so I can buy 1

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s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	I agree with Peter

19-10-2014, 09:19 AM	#13
Pip1968 S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kent, England Posts: 940 Casino cash: $8383	Shimmy is the number plate/history icon for future queries. As for CSL being a track car only for enjoyment purposes I disagree. Progressive driving on the road and open roads are also best enjoyed in a CSL. If you want a raw driving experience get a CSL. There must be a few others around for sale. I did a review of prices of them earlier this year that Mark put in the member's section. There must have been 10-15 for sale then. Surely they are not all gone - ?? Pip

19-10-2014, 11:13 AM	#15
SMD S6, Sport On, Traction Off Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Shropshire Posts: 1,505 Casino cash: $10726	Mod the 1M and then you have a special car?

19-10-2014, 10:06 PM	#20
GregorJP S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 319 Casino cash: $2092	I test drove a 1M about a year ago with a view to perhaps trading in the CSL for it. It was very nice to drive, quick, torquey and felt like a mini-M3 on steroids. The interior was nicer than I had expected and I love small cars, so it had me sold. The fact that the dealer didn't really know what a CSL was didn't help the discussions about trade-in, and the financials didn't cut it for me. But give me a choice between a 1M and a CSL and I'd take the CSL every time.