Servicing time period

e12_mat · 13-11-2009, 09:29 AM

I am in need of your council,

I am looking at a low mileage CSL with 22500 miles on the clock. The problem is The services have been carried out according to the indicator so its had its running in service at 11/04 and then its next service at 10k on 07/07.

BMW now specify that if the indicator doesn’t come on within two years then you should have it serviced.

Just wondering what your thoughts are would you consider this to have full service history?

md23 · 13-11-2009, 12:23 PM

Does it have warranty? Might be worth running by BMW... 3 years seems like a long time between services to me. Next service must be due as well? Insp I?

Oh, and welcome BTW!

e12_mat · 13-11-2009, 01:06 PM

I know its sounds like a lot but when the car only gets used at weekends as a toy its not really.

So if I can get a BMW extended warranty on it then thats as good as saying its got full history?

It is going for a service at the moment skipping ins 1 and going straight to ins 2 seems the right way to go.

philj · 13-11-2009, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e12_mat

So if I can get a BMW extended warranty on it then thats as good as saying its got full history?

Not sure about this. I think BMW could use the length of time between services as a way of getting out of a possible warranty claim. Just because they sell you a warranty, does not mean you are covered.

Ask BMW the question and get the answer in writing, at least then you'll have some come back.

Not sure I like the idea of the same oil being in the engine for 3 years, although I can't think why this would cause a problem. If you do buy the car, make sure you use this as a negotiating point!

SIEN · 13-11-2009, 01:46 PM

Careful. When I got my BMW warranty done they specifically asked whether the car 'has full service history, and that those services were done a maximum of 2 years apart'. If not, you cannot apply for BMW insured warranty.

e12_mat · 13-11-2009, 01:52 PM

The vendors local dealer advised him to service it as and when the CBS monitor told him to.

I have been going between BMW UK and warranty people and we have got to the point that if the local dealer states they told him this in an email then it will be covered and they will provide a warranty.

I was just thinking how does this harm the vehichle from a resale point of view.

its got air con and CD. 22.5k 54 plate

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SIEN · 13-11-2009, 02:01 PM

The harm will be that the next buyer, and yourself cannot get warranty on the car. You may also want to consider why BMW put that 2 year restriction in place.

There are plenty of people who buy CSL's who won't give a monkeys if it's covered under warranty, as long as the price reflects that, but it does reduce your buying market.

md23 · 13-11-2009, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philj

Not sure about this. I think BMW could use the length of time between services as a way of getting out of a possible warranty claim. Just because they sell you a warranty, does not mean you are covered.

Ask BMW the question and get the answer in writing, at least then you'll have some come back.

Not sure I like the idea of the same oil being in the engine for 3 years, although I can't think why this would cause a problem. If you do buy the car, make sure you use this as a negotiating point!

This is the point I was trying to make - badly... Not the way to treat a car like this IMO.

As a comparison, I bought mine at 25k miles and it had:

16.07.04 @ 1220 miles Running in check (Murketts)
15.07.05 @ 4327 oil service (Murketts)
21.09.05 @ 7295 oil service (Murketts)
11.04.06 @10941 oil service (Dick Lovett)
31.03.07 @ 16112 oil service (Sorensons)
29.10.07 @ 19345 Inspection I (Sorensons)
17.04.09 @ 25000 oil service (Phoenix)

Now at 30k and will get an oil service in January when in for MOT.

As said above, if you have / want a warranty I'd ask BMW for something in writing. If not then up to you really.

e12_mat · 13-11-2009, 03:12 PM

Hay guys really appreciate the advice on this.

md23 I see what you mean.

I know not qite having full service history will obviously impact on value and the potential market that would consider purchasing it.

last question is what roughly would you think it is worth in its current state. Given spec listed on the previous post.

I know it is massively subjective, but I thought you fine individuals would be better placed then any cap based valuation system to give me a no BS assesment of what I should be paying for it.

LOL just thought we should have a vote would you consider buying this car with this service history.

**shimmy** · 13-11-2009, 05:25 PM

if it hasnt got a BMW warranty on it at the moment agree with the seller for him to get a full BMW warrnty extension and the price you will pay for the car if he does.

Then before you complete ring BMW and check that the warranty it has will be renewed under the service history record.

Car then should be worth circa £28-29k

13-11-2009, 09:29 AM	#1
e12_mat Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Casino cash: $308	Servicing time period I am in need of your council, I am looking at a low mileage CSL with 22500 miles on the clock. The problem is The services have been carried out according to the indicator so its had its running in service at 11/04 and then its next service at 10k on 07/07. BMW now specify that if the indicator doesn’t come on within two years then you should have it serviced. Just wondering what your thoughts are would you consider this to have full service history?

13-11-2009, 01:46 PM	#5
SIEN S3 - On the open road Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: West Sussex Posts: 109 Casino cash: $1494	Careful. When I got my BMW warranty done they specifically asked whether the car 'has full service history, and that those services were done a maximum of 2 years apart'. If not, you cannot apply for BMW insured warranty. __________________ '03 SB CSL

13-11-2009, 02:01 PM	#7
SIEN S3 - On the open road Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: West Sussex Posts: 109 Casino cash: $1494	The harm will be that the next buyer, and yourself cannot get warranty on the car. You may also want to consider why BMW put that 2 year restriction in place. There are plenty of people who buy CSL's who won't give a monkeys if it's covered under warranty, as long as the price reflects that, but it does reduce your buying market. __________________ '03 SB CSL

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13-11-2009, 12:23 PM	#2
md23 S3 - On the open road Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 90 Casino cash: $5662	Does it have warranty? Might be worth running by BMW... 3 years seems like a long time between services to me. Next service must be due as well? Insp I? Oh, and welcome BTW!

13-11-2009, 01:06 PM	#3
e12_mat Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Casino cash: $308	I know its sounds like a lot but when the car only gets used at weekends as a toy its not really. So if I can get a BMW extended warranty on it then thats as good as saying its got full history? It is going for a service at the moment skipping ins 1 and going straight to ins 2 seems the right way to go.

13-11-2009, 01:52 PM	#6
e12_mat Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Casino cash: $308	The vendors local dealer advised him to service it as and when the CBS monitor told him to. I have been going between BMW UK and warranty people and we have got to the point that if the local dealer states they told him this in an email then it will be covered and they will provide a warranty. I was just thinking how does this harm the vehichle from a resale point of view. its got air con and CD. 22.5k 54 plate AP's front and rear Milltek Thorney map

13-11-2009, 03:12 PM	#9
e12_mat Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 5 Casino cash: $308	Hay guys really appreciate the advice on this. md23 I see what you mean. I know not qite having full service history will obviously impact on value and the potential market that would consider purchasing it. last question is what roughly would you think it is worth in its current state. Given spec listed on the previous post. I know it is massively subjective, but I thought you fine individuals would be better placed then any cap based valuation system to give me a no BS assesment of what I should be paying for it. LOL just thought we should have a vote would you consider buying this car with this service history.

13-11-2009, 05:25 PM	#10
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,646 Casino cash: $43909	if it hasnt got a BMW warranty on it at the moment agree with the seller for him to get a full BMW warrnty extension and the price you will pay for the car if he does. Then before you complete ring BMW and check that the warranty it has will be renewed under the service history record. Car then should be worth circa £28-29k