Real world difference between an M3 and a CSL...

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by toofastforyou

tyres are not the only variable that will improve a lap time by 32secs. sure they play a part, but as i said before it is the combination of all the mods bmw made to create the csl working harmoniously that allow such a time. it is the whole package that is the csl.

Agreed.

And the car feels so good as well. It's not just the time.

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

Agreed.

And the car feels so good as well. It's not just the time.

I like the 'feel' of the alcantara against my bare skin - always gets a bit of blood in the old fella...

[s.mac]

Thats where you left your glasses then Dunc you blind f......

[toofastforyou]

Originally Posted by glendog74

I like the 'feel' of the alcantara against my bare skin - always gets a bit of blood in the old fella...

[funtime]

Originally Posted by glendog74

I like the 'feel' of the alcantara against my bare skin - always gets a bit of blood in the old fella...

That's just wrong

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by glendog74

I like the 'feel' of the alcantara against my bare skin - always gets a bit of blood in the old fella...

Agreed Rob but do you have to do that on every roadtrip?

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by funtime

That's just wrong

Fuckin' hell. Wait till you meet him!

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by funtime

That's interesting, are you sure the AP's didn't make much difference?

My mate manages a 8:33 BTG with a standard SMG M3 (only mod being yellow stuff pads) and that's on PS2's, although he does know the track rather well. Laps on you tube - search 8:33

but thats a minute off the pace - i can do that and ive never been on the Ring

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by funtime

I would agree with you in pointing out it's unlikely to just be down to the tyres, however I'd say it's much more to do with the weight than the suspension surely? (assuming the CSL suspension is standard)

Youve gotta remember that the CSL was built for the Ring and the dev time went into the suspension for the Ring

Now agree that all these things working together will overall be more than the sum of their parts but dont underestimate the OEm suspension

[funtime]

Originally Posted by shimmy

but thats a minute off the pace - i can do that and ive never been on the Ring

never been on what ring?! How is it a minute off the pace for a standard M3? a CSL standard only laps in 7:50 with a racing driver and cup tyres?