Warrantied SG 2004 BMW M3 CSL #320 for Sale

[73CSL]

Originally Posted by sfh3l

I suppose to a certain extent it depends on the Porsche that would take the csl's place as to how difficult that decision is. However, no Porsche that you'll buy for csl money os going to provide anything like the same dynamic experience. You'd need pretty much to sell 2 csl's to achieve that, which is a demonstration of what a fabulous car it is for the relatively modest current values......

However, if it is to buy an older Porker, then the whole dynamics thing is somewhat different. My '72 T is arguably more of an event and challenge to drive at sensible speeds than ever the csl was, which is just as well, as the 'stupid' speeds that the csl would comfortably sneer at would be impossible or fatal in the wayward and brakeless Porsche. Apples and oranges don't make too good a comparison really.

If you're already able to sample old 911 goodness on a regular basis, I would say that the csl is a definite keeper. I just didn't have enough space and money to do it all at the same time.....

I have my '73 2.4S & '93 964 C2 , another Porsche will be in addition to these, which does make the decision to sell the CSL a bit more difficult

.. 73CSL , as much as I'd like a genuine early CSL, my user name is no more exotic than the year I was born

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[sfh3l]

Originally Posted by MisterCorn

What do you think it is? I would guess it is somebody who owns a CSL and was born in 1973, but that is probably because that is when I was born.

MC

Learn you history MC ! 73CSL could have had an entirely different meaning and one altogether more car focused.

The Daddy:

Without the 72/3 CSL there'd be no 2003/4 CSL

73CSL - you already have perfection in your 911, so my advice would be to stay put with the CSL and keep the Porkers too. Automotive Heaven

[MisterCorn]

Originally Posted by sfh3l

Learn you history MC ! 73CSL could have had an entirely different meaning and one altogether more car focused.

The Daddy:

Without the 72/3 CSL there'd be no 2003/4 CSL

73CSL - you already have perfection in your 911, so my advice would be to stay put with the CSL and keep the Porkers too. Automotive Heaven

I knew that it COULD have meant that, but my guess was that it didn't. This was based on how many people have similar forum names and use the last two digits of their year of birth to differentiate them when using a common part for the rest of the name.
Besides, I was right .

73MC

[mattCSLnut]

@ Sam

Originally Posted by sfh3l

The Daddy:

Without the 72/3 CSL there'd be no 2003/4 CSL

[sfh3l]

Originally Posted by MisterCorn

I knew that it COULD have meant that, but my guess was that it didn't. This was based on how many people have similar forum names and use the last two digits of their year of birth to differentiate them when using a common part for the rest of the name.
Besides, I was right .

73MC

I suppose you're right. I never liked the sound of "66TWAT" though

[Bounce]

Originally Posted by sfh3l

I suppose you're right. I never liked the sound of "66TWAT" though

[SSS]

Originally Posted by Okey

My personal take to the question of what is the CSL worth ?
Is it worth £50K.. personally I don’t think so. (pls read the entire post)
I think we CSL owners really know the true value of a CSL. Most people buying these cars now will be coming from other marques, or say Standard E46 M3.
Would they value a CSL at £50k ? Well not really as they are buyers not sellers.
I bought the CSL thinking, I could just park it on the street, run it to work , do the B road drives, a track day here and there and not loose too much money..how worng was I ? My previous car history included 2 Ferrari V8s, a radicle a Lancia Integrale Evo and a couple of Porsches, (I thought I was a petrol head) and even then I knew / heard little of what the CSL was actually all about.
Sitting in the CSL in traffic was a complete waste of its use, parking it on the street with potential damage to the CF roof, the front bumper, meant it soon got garaged. Taking it on track ment it needed brakes, then cups, then potentially suspension and Diff upgrades, plus it became too valuable to start spinning and mounting the kerbs with.
So where does that leave a car, in my opinion that is as good as a Ferrari 360 Stradale and a 996 GT3.
Yes.. I have driven and tracked both of them 10 years ago
The stradale is now worth more than its retail price in 2003… cheapest being around £150k.
The CSL matches it for thrills, drama , interior ambiance.
The CSL’s issue is badge snobbery, joe blogs thinks it’s a tarted up E46
You mention 996 GT3 and people go weak at the knees, you talk about stradales and scuderias and people just nod like its God given they are worth thousands over their base models. And 1.5 Times over original list , its changing more and more as people are now understanding what its about… BUT its still below its original price.
I think the values will rise as long as the economy remains stable. It will then sit at the same level as an E30 M3 Evo.
When I compare the two cars, driven and tracked the E30 as well…
The CSL looks more aggressive, it has a lot more power, sounds a lot more animalistic, such a special place to sit… but the E30 was homologation special so it all balances out.
The CSL covers all bases you can think off,
If it’s a garage queen, keep it standard, polish and replace with New OEM parts, and you have a cracking car that is stunning to behold.
If it’s a weekend B road blasting toy, stick on an exhaust that pops and bangs on the overrun and you have a wonderful tool.
If it’s a track car, AP’s /Intrax lighten the rear, and go drift it to your hearts content.
If it had a Ferrari or Porsche badge on it it would have risen so much monetary wise by now.
I cannot think of too many cars that cover all these bases.
So to answer the question, personally I think my CSL is worth £75K today.( Would someone pay me that for it today? Probably not. ! ) They have risen by 5K per year in the last 3 years, so in another 3 years or so they will all be worth £65 -75K and rising for any car that is simply straight..
The problem is the CSL is too special a car.. hats off to those that drive it daily.. (I couldn’t) hats off to those tracking it hard, (I couldn’t) and I couldn’t have it as a garage Queen either, it not my style… (even though its still stunning to just look at)
I am sinking the money into upgrading my business equipment, and will replace the CSL with a leased modern turbo charged V8 car that can left on the streets, tracked and driven daily without out me having to park 20 miles from Sainsbury car park, leaving the house with Kleenex and water incase there is birds droppings on the CF roof, and gently going round a track in case I bin it, driving it gloves to keep the steering wheel clean, and keeping the seat covered all the time… plus not letting the doors slam when people are getting in or out.. (probably also saving me a divorce case here.. My wife thinks I have lost the plot.)

I love the "leaving the house with Kleenex and water incase there is bird droppings on the CF roof"