Do the CSLs suffer with hot brakes?

[glendog74]

Originally Posted by northernjim

how do the pagids compare to ds2500's then?

I wouldn't mind trying something else in my AP's

Like night and day mate - I wouldn't use DS2500s again on track.

I have good experience of Questmead too - very good customer service & advice

[northernjim]

I'm thinking of getting a more abrasive compound pad for track days, and keeping the ferodos for day to day....


but which compound pagids do people use?

rs 5, rs14, rs 15, 29's, 4-2-4!!

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by glendog74

Like night and day mate - I wouldn't use DS2500s again on track.

DS2500 shouldnt be used on track, you will get deposits and think your discs are fecked, same with RS421 and probably a few more fast road pads, great on road, no squeal but troublesome on track.

Ive tried most pagids and would say for track use Rs29 and Rs14 are great with Rs14 the better on road of the two. RS15 are a little to aggressive on the discs you will find but ok maybe of you are on a racing budget, but road use even worse

PF01 much like Rs29 but last abit longer and not so prone to break up in the last 5mm of pad.

[northernjim]

Originally Posted by shimmy

DS2500 shouldnt be used on track, you will get deposits and think your discs are fecked, same with RS421 and probably a few more fast road pads, great on road, no squeal but troublesome on track.

Ive tried most pagids and would say for track use Rs29 and Rs14 are great with Rs14 the better on road of the two. RS15 are a little to aggressive on the discs you will find but ok maybe of you are on a racing budget, but road use even worse

PF01 much like Rs29 but last abit longer and not so prone to break up in the last 5mm of pad.

cheers mr shimmster

[shimmy]

currently run Rs14 front and DS2500 rear on track and sometimes swap back to DS2500 front for longer periods of road use (no squeal and less brake dust)

but equaly happy with RS29 and PF01 tbh on the fronts

[northernjim]

would you say that these pagids are much more abrasive than 2500's then? I'm not too bothered, just as long as they work



do you know which calipers your AP kit uses on your cars?


I have the cp7040, they[the pagids] should be easy enough to get hold of if they are the same.....




trundles off to search for some on the t'interweb....

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by northernjim

would you say that these pagids are much more abrasive than 2500's then? I'm not too bothered, just as long as they work



do you know which calipers your AP kit uses on your cars?


I have the cp7040, they[the pagids] should be easy enough to get hold of if they are the same.....




trundles off to search for some on the t'interweb....

Rs421 Pagids are similar to DS2500

Pagid Rs29, 14, 15 more abrasive and track focused

[AlexGTT]

I use RS 29's all round and have no issues on road or track. Front AP disc's were not good on mine. I find PF far better. I have AP's all round but run standard discs on the back. Usually find them a bit grumbly on the road from cold but that soon goes away when they're nicely warmed up.

Absolutely no fade on track, even on hard braking tracks. No need for cooling ducts unless you plan on racing.

[englebert]

2500s are frankly a stupid standard fit by AP.

PF discs and Pagids are the way forward!

[shimmy]

I spoke to AP about this and they had a deal with Ferrodo at the time and DS 3000 were too aggressive and corrosive to the rims.

Reading between the lines I think they were suggesting that people using the 2500 on track has backfired on them