So who has the most highly modified CSL?

[Bealo]

You should have bought mine when you had the chance you SAP....

If you have a V8 barge and that unreliable Track car where does the CSL fit in?

It should be on the track......

[_Nathan_]

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird

So the basic gist is that everyone is debunking the normal tuning methods and basically the CSL engine can't be improved ?

No one is saying that, just that diminishing returns kicks in very early and chasing power is pretty pointless when you get better laptimes from other modifications.

Fact is you could spend a lot of money chasing power with crank, pistons, rods, cams, big valve head, injectors, map the DME for that (have to retain that due to SMG unless you can be bothered to reverse engineer the comms and logic between Engine and SMG ECUs) and lets say maybe you get a real 410bhp (125bhp/L) then at full weight you'll still have a car that is slow in a straight line

[monkeycsl]

Painfully slow WTF

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by monkeycsl

Painfully slow WTF

I'm spoiled - most things seem painfully slow .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5VV7...yEumMA&index=9

[Steve B]

Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird

To put your mind at ease, I forgot to say, I know Bealo and rstoughy (however, please don't hold that against me ).

and meeeee......

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by Bealo

You should have bought mine when you had the chance you SAP....

If you have a V8 barge and that unreliable Track car where does the CSL fit in?

It should be on the track......

That's where it will be . It's just the Cossie (with the straight cut dog 'box) is just too focused for driving huge distances to track days (e.g. the 'ring), so I want something that will thrill and that I won't fall asleep driving .

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by Steve B

and meeeee......

Having seen the wheels you first put on it, I thought it must be a replica .

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

No one is saying that, just that diminishing returns kicks in very early and chasing power is pretty pointless when you get better laptimes from other modifications.

Fact is you could spend a lot of money chasing power with crank, pistons, rods, cams, big valve head, injectors, map the DME for that (have to retain that due to SMG unless you can be bothered to reverse engineer the comms and logic between Engine and SMG ECUs) and lets say maybe you get a real 410bhp (125bhp/L) then at full weight you'll still have a car that is slow in a straight line

I appreciate that, hence why I wanted to speak to people that had gone down that route to see what their real world experience of various mods were.

I know what good suspension and brakes do as I have Ohlins TTX and 378mm water-cooled WRC AP 6-pots / 315mm titanium pistoned Grp A AP 4-pots on my current track car.

[Porker]

Engine-wise mine is slightly modified and runs at 384hp, can't say the difference with a regular one is that noticeable.

-Supersprint stepped headers
-Supersprint mettalic Cats
-Supersprint mid section
-Supersprint back box
-Schrik 280/288 cams and Schrik rocker arms fitted
-Re-mapped by PPE @ 384bhp/411Nm

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by Porker

Engine-wise mine is slightly modified and runs at 384hp, can't say the difference with a regular one is that noticeable.

-Supersprint stepped headers
-Supersprint mettalic Cats
-Supersprint mid section
-Supersprint back box
-Schrik 280/288 cams and Schrik rocker arms fitted
-Re-mapped by PPE @ 384bhp/411Nm

I'm assuming by your mods that all the extra power is above 7000rpm - did you find the cams lost some of the standard car's mid-range? Have you got a before and after overlaid power plot to see where the gains / losses were?