Performance Friction Pads!!

[mattCSLnut]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

All the people that track it along with of course me old mate Fuchs

I wouldn't put EBC pads on a pushbike let alone a moderately fast yet heavy car.

Are the EBC pads really that BAD ! I've had them on quiet a few Golfs (MK2, MK3 & MK4) and they coped very well, even at the RING. What gives, has anyone on here actually tried them or am I going to have to be the first one to try ?

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by mattCSLnut

Are the EBC pads really that BAD ! I've had them on quiet a few Golfs (MK2, MK3 & MK4) and they coped very well, even at the RING. What gives, has anyone on here actually tried them or am I going to have to be the first one to try ?

now this is my last word on the subject incase Fuch's radar picks it up but the RING is not hard on brakes like a UK track, def not like Bedford, Anglesey, Donington, Snetterton.

A nice generous piece fo Edam will stop you at the Ring

[mattCSLnut]

Originally Posted by shimmy

now this is my last word on the subject incase Fuch's radar picks it up but the RING is not hard on brakes like a UK track, def not like Bedford, Anglesey, Donington, Snetterton.

A nice generous piece fo Edam will stop you at the Ring

LOL !!! I'm in full agreement with you that the Ring isn't that hard on brakes so a standard set up with semi decent HOT pads (even EBC Reds) should be fine. A lot of short, UK Tracks however are brake killers Should I just bit the bullet and "AP" my CSL ? and does BREMBO do a big brake kit for our cars ?

[Ade]

Originally Posted by mattCSLnut

LOL !!! I'm in full agreement with you that the Ring isn't that hard on brakes so a standard set up with semi decent HOT pads (even EBC Reds) should be fine. A lot of short, UK Tracks however are brake killers Should I just bit the bullet and "AP" my CSL ? and does BREMBO do a big brake kit for our cars ?

One word if you are going to AP or Brembo your CSL: Alcons

[mattCSLnut]

Originally Posted by Ade

One word if you are going to AP or Brembo your CSL: Alcons

OK, I'm listening Any pix, linx, etc ?

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Ade

One word if you are going to AP or Brembo your CSL: Alcons

i have to say i dont think Alcons can be better for the car as my AP callipers have been absolutely superb/faultless in the 50k miles they have done so far and ?? trackdays. I ma getting them refurbed next week just in case!!

BUT if i had m time again i think i may try ALCONS anyway although it does limit the pad and disc options

[mattCSLnut]

WOW ! 50 000 miles and no probs. That's impressive

[Ade]

Originally Posted by shimmy

i have to say i dont think Alcons can be better for the car as my AP callipers have been absolutely superb/faultless in the 50k miles they have done so far and ?? trackdays. I ma getting them refurbed next week just in case!!

BUT if i had m time again i think i may try ALCONS anyway although it does limit the pad and disc options

APs are a well engineered product that I would expect to last 50k miles, and then some.

ALCONS are a little bit better in all ways (except for the ease of pad change), as used in FIA GT, by Prodrive on the WRC cars, etc. Given the intended use of Alcons, there are enough pads available - certainly all the main/common ones on the TD scene.

If you already had APs, I think the need to change is negligible. But i agree with you that if you had the choice to do it from OEM now, then Alcons are a definite consideration. They served me well in over 30k miles on the GT3! (same set of discs lasted that entire time with RS29s which imho is just amazing considering the mixed track and road use)

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Ade

APs are a well engineered product that I would expect to last 50k miles, and then some.

ALCONS are a little bit better in all ways (except for the ease of pad change), as used in FIA GT, by Prodrive on the WRC cars, etc. Given the intended use of Alcons, there are enough pads available - certainly all the main/common ones on the TD scene.

If you already had APs, I think the need to change is negligible. But i agree with you that if you had the choice to do it from OEM now, then Alcons are a definite consideration. They served me well in over 30k miles on the GT3! (same set of discs lasted that entire time with RS29s which imho is just amazing considering the mixed track and road use)

Ade

what pad profile do they use up front? And are they common?

[Ade]

Originally Posted by shimmy

Ade

what pad profile do they use up front? And are they common?

It is the Alcon Mono6 caliper upfront, and the Mono4 for the rear.

Front pad template is the Pagid E8028 and Ferodo FRP3081

The Mono6 and Mono4 calipers have been around for some time - they are also the exact same calipers being touted by Alcon for the latest GTR etc. The caliper and pad template blueprints are available on the Alcon website.

Have a look here: http://www.alcon.co.uk/advantage_extreme.htm