E92 M3 for a week..so far - Page 2

NZ_M3 · 22-08-2009, 12:09 AM

For what the E92 M3 was intended as, it does it very well to be honest. It was never meant to be a CSL replacement - never was and never will be.

I've not had an issue with the seatbelt receiver thing ever - works brilliantly everytime. In fact when I get in the CSL now, I am always forgetting that there's no such thing and I keep waiting for something to pass the seatbelt to me

The variable steering ratio does take a little bit getting used to (do bear in mind it has a wider range than the fixed steering ratio in the CSL - in fact at its fastest setting it is about 20% quicker than the CSL steering) - but I do find it nicely weighted when it goes heavy at high speed. The car communicates in a different manner to the CSL, and trust me the grip level is amazing in this thing once set up correctly (mine had terrible geo new from the factory, it was unbelievable).

I actually felt the built quality was quite a step up in the E92 M3, perhaps yours has been lent out one too many times.

I do agree that the warm up lamp looks kinda of cheapish compared to the LED styled warm up lamp - however, I do believe it adds a 'mechanical' feel to the gauge and interior to something that is already an interior packed with electronic wizardry.

Suspension wise, having owned 2 E46 M3s, I'd pitch it somewhere between the CSL and the E46 M3 to be honest. It's actually not that soft and rather jarring at times (take it on a really rough road and you'll notice how well the whole chassis reacts and how composed the car is compared to the old M3).

I do agree the jewel of this car is the engine itself - now imagine this engine in the CSL chassis ... that'd be something quite fun I gather.

If I was only given the choice of owning one car as something that I can use as a track car and daily drive, I'd pick the E92 M3 hands down to be honest.

Will report back on how the E92 M3 is on the track after my driver training next Wednesday ....

jibm · 26-08-2009, 03:39 PM

still got the pesky thing (its not that bad

) is it out of order to track it?

Thorney · 26-08-2009, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibm

ok will someone lend me their CSL for a week and take this piece of "built to please the septic’s" shit away

i hate it - my car is not ready until the end of next week. based on this i cant see myself buying a BMW again other than a CSL

things i hate?
the seat belt thing that passes you the belt, it misses every time
the shit version of warm up lights
the dashboard made with old man Rover style vinyl
the suspension - how come something soo soft can hit every bump in the road and send it straight up you spine
no torch J
its only done 28k but feels old and sloppy
the a/c knob should be the stereo knob
its now full of sand (whoops)

things I like?
It has grunt
Bonnet bulge
Door mirrors
I drive radio display
That fact I didn’t pay 50 odd grand for it

I'd agree with a lot of that.

Jaw_F430 · 26-08-2009, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibm

still got the pesky thing (its not that bad

) is it out of order to track it?

Someone has on here already I think. Daz maybe

**DazBlackCSL** · 26-08-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibm

still got the pesky thing (its not that bad

) is it out of order to track it?

my loaner last year when the CSL was in for some work !

**DazBlackCSL** · 26-08-2009, 08:22 PM

Rags · 26-08-2009, 08:35 PM

It makes me laugh, there is a thread on Z3M coupe saying how a CSL is no better and now a thread on here saying how shit the e92 m3 compared to the CSL!

http://www.z3mcoupe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8565

Get real guys, this is not a fair comparison.

Where the E92 Wins

Its newer, more refined, comfy, quick

The CSL is crap at daily driving and being practical - fact.

The CSL is totally obnoxious for daily use - fact.

Straight line speed,the e92 is quicker

Takes the road better than the CSL (with EDC).

Its a V8

However, it lacks the soul the CSL has, the sound, the handling (although the E92 does handle well), the CSL feels old in comparison.

Ultimately youre not comparing apples with apples here guys!

**DazBlackCSL** · 26-08-2009, 08:43 PM

The CSL is totally obnoxious for daily use - fact.

Absolute Bollocks

Used Every single day rain / sun / snow and on KW's with Supersprint race exhaust.

Cant see what the problem is, if you want to sit in comfort, sit on your sofa at home and watch TV

There not the same cars at all agreed.. love the new one for it is would not have it over the CSL ever or a GT3... as well as ohh yes

Jaw_F430 · 26-08-2009, 09:05 PM

I have been using mine this week for work why I have been swapping the cylinder head on my Cooper S.

It's just an awesome car and it lashed it down today but love driving it

Would use it everyday but don't want to put tooooo many miles on it, 26K miles are getting nearer!!

Rags · 26-08-2009, 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DazBlackCSL

The CSL is totally obnoxious for daily use - fact.

Absolute Bollocks

Used Every single day rain / sun / snow and on KW's with Supersprint race exhaust.

Cant see what the problem is, if you want to sit in comfort, sit on your sofa at home and watch TV

There not the same cars at all agreed.. love the new one for it is would not have it over the CSL ever or a GT3... as well as ohh yes

I have no idea what you do for a living but turning up at work in a suit and driving to customers in a milltek'd CSL that fails the sound test at Bedford certainly isn't tame.

The e92 m3 is performance without shouting 'look at me'.

22-08-2009, 12:09 AM	#11
NZ_M3 S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 1,434 Casino cash: $13579	For what the E92 M3 was intended as, it does it very well to be honest. It was never meant to be a CSL replacement - never was and never will be. I've not had an issue with the seatbelt receiver thing ever - works brilliantly everytime. In fact when I get in the CSL now, I am always forgetting that there's no such thing and I keep waiting for something to pass the seatbelt to me The variable steering ratio does take a little bit getting used to (do bear in mind it has a wider range than the fixed steering ratio in the CSL - in fact at its fastest setting it is about 20% quicker than the CSL steering) - but I do find it nicely weighted when it goes heavy at high speed. The car communicates in a different manner to the CSL, and trust me the grip level is amazing in this thing once set up correctly (mine had terrible geo new from the factory, it was unbelievable). I actually felt the built quality was quite a step up in the E92 M3, perhaps yours has been lent out one too many times. I do agree that the warm up lamp looks kinda of cheapish compared to the LED styled warm up lamp - however, I do believe it adds a 'mechanical' feel to the gauge and interior to something that is already an interior packed with electronic wizardry. Suspension wise, having owned 2 E46 M3s, I'd pitch it somewhere between the CSL and the E46 M3 to be honest. It's actually not that soft and rather jarring at times (take it on a really rough road and you'll notice how well the whole chassis reacts and how composed the car is compared to the old M3). I do agree the jewel of this car is the engine itself - now imagine this engine in the CSL chassis ... that'd be something quite fun I gather. If I was only given the choice of owning one car as something that I can use as a track car and daily drive, I'd pick the E92 M3 hands down to be honest. Will report back on how the E92 M3 is on the track after my driver training next Wednesday .... Last edited by NZ_M3; 22-08-2009 at 12:55 AM.

26-08-2009, 08:35 PM	#17
Rags S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 223 Casino cash: $624	It makes me laugh, there is a thread on Z3M coupe saying how a CSL is no better and now a thread on here saying how shit the e92 m3 compared to the CSL! http://www.z3mcoupe.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8565 Get real guys, this is not a fair comparison. Where the E92 Wins Its newer, more refined, comfy, quick The CSL is crap at daily driving and being practical - fact. The CSL is totally obnoxious for daily use - fact. Straight line speed,the e92 is quicker Takes the road better than the CSL (with EDC). Its a V8 However, it lacks the soul the CSL has, the sound, the handling (although the E92 does handle well), the CSL feels old in comparison. Ultimately youre not comparing apples with apples here guys! Last edited by Rags; 26-08-2009 at 08:37 PM.

26-08-2009, 08:43 PM	#18
DazBlackCSL CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Shaboogling Posts: 7,199 Casino cash: $28478	The CSL is totally obnoxious for daily use - fact. Absolute Bollocks Used Every single day rain / sun / snow and on KW's with Supersprint race exhaust. Cant see what the problem is, if you want to sit in comfort, sit on your sofa at home and watch TV There not the same cars at all agreed.. love the new one for it is would not have it over the CSL ever or a GT3... as well as ohh yes __________________ CSL Register Lifestyle Coach and Social Secretary Last edited by DazBlackCSL; 26-08-2009 at 08:45 PM.

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26-08-2009, 03:39 PM	#12
jibm S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Asteroids Champion! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 591 Casino cash: $14218	still got the pesky thing (its not that bad ) is it out of order to track it?

26-08-2009, 09:05 PM	#19
Jaw_F430 S5 - Full Throttle Power Driver Champion! Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 451 Casino cash: $2634	I have been using mine this week for work why I have been swapping the cylinder head on my Cooper S. It's just an awesome car and it lashed it down today but love driving it Would use it everyday but don't want to put tooooo many miles on it, 26K miles are getting nearer!!