Seeking CSL knowledge.

The Gorilla · 03-04-2011, 12:06 PM

Hi,

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from the s54 ...

of course many so called tuners may claim hp gains on the dyno ... but on the road you would probably go even slower than stock !!!

we have checked nearly ALL available n/a methods from nearly ALL "tuners" ...

lately we have even checked a heavily modified s54 with higher compression , pistons , numerous Schrick camshafts (from 288 up to 304) , Schrick retainers , strengthened valve spinrgs , csl airbox etc ...

the results is that even that will go head to head with mine which is just an "alpha-n" with an MK airbox and 1460 kg ...

as for csl's in my current "specs" I must say that I am quite faster ... on a straight line that is !!!

the only modification that I would suggest for a "regular" M3 after all that testing for the last 3 years is

shedding weight , a shorter final diff and a lightweight flywheel ... the "alpha-n" conversion and a higher rev limiter is of course not a bad idea as well

Not sure I follow what your saying here.

You posted your concerns that your ECU was not making
fuel adaptions / trimming which would be required in
order to make real gains with the S54 Vanos optimised,
as in the CSL, and now your saying that even highly
tuned cars are not as fast as yours ?

While I believe that tunning the S54 to some of the alleged
numbers is cloud cuckoo land, its on par with saying that a
N type Map with a Carbon Airbox and nothing else produces
a S54 that is better than a CSL ?

Correct me if I am wrong, but that is what you are saying.

Where did BMW go so wrong, I mean all they had to do
to go racing themselves was take a stock S54, fit an
MK Carbon Airbox, a bastardised N Type Map, leave the stock
cams in there, not even optimise the Vanos, and hey presto they
have a winner !!

This is just pure Monkey business to a primate.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

03-04-2011, 12:06 PM	#17
The Gorilla S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 740 Casino cash: $14401	Hi, Quote- from the s54 ... of course many so called tuners may claim hp gains on the dyno ... but on the road you would probably go even slower than stock !!! we have checked nearly ALL available n/a methods from nearly ALL "tuners" ... lately we have even checked a heavily modified s54 with higher compression , pistons , numerous Schrick camshafts (from 288 up to 304) , Schrick retainers , strengthened valve spinrgs , csl airbox etc ... the results is that even that will go head to head with mine which is just an "alpha-n" with an MK airbox and 1460 kg ... as for csl's in my current "specs" I must say that I am quite faster ... on a straight line that is !!! the only modification that I would suggest for a "regular" M3 after all that testing for the last 3 years is shedding weight , a shorter final diff and a lightweight flywheel ... the "alpha-n" conversion and a higher rev limiter is of course not a bad idea as well Not sure I follow what your saying here. You posted your concerns that your ECU was not making fuel adaptions / trimming which would be required in order to make real gains with the S54 Vanos optimised, as in the CSL, and now your saying that even highly tuned cars are not as fast as yours ? While I believe that tunning the S54 to some of the alleged numbers is cloud cuckoo land, its on par with saying that a N type Map with a Carbon Airbox and nothing else produces a S54 that is better than a CSL ? Correct me if I am wrong, but that is what you are saying. Where did BMW go so wrong, I mean all they had to do to go racing themselves was take a stock S54, fit an MK Carbon Airbox, a bastardised N Type Map, leave the stock cams in there, not even optimise the Vanos, and hey presto they have a winner !! This is just pure Monkey business to a primate. Regards, The Gorilla.