Real world difference between an M3 and a CSL...

[DuncanR]

Originally Posted by DazBlackCSL

Think we do need to a group buy on cheese again

Screwfix are doing a great deal on a Steam Cleaner , free lump of edam ... and they throw in a free model boat FFS

[DazBlackCSL]

Originally Posted by DuncanR

Screwfix are doing a great deal on a Steam Cleaner , free lump of edam ... and they throw in a free model boat FFS

have you got a link

[glendog74]

Linky please! Especially if it's that Maersk line boat!

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by DazBlackCSL

Think we do need to a group buy on cheese again

Agreed Daz. Still didn't get mine from last year!

Great thread. Simple answer is just book a test drive. Believe me, you will want.

All this talk of mods, tuning, 1/2 a second here and there means feck all. It ain't a blinkin' racecar. Just enjoy cars like the CSL while you can and add some toys if you want.

[funtime]

Originally Posted by DuncanR

you obviously havent seen mine then !! ..best not bring her ! No problem if your business travels bring you this far, there are others closer ...you know who you are !! "Dont tell him Pike".. lazy fookers ...give the lad a ride !

I have seen your car, and yes I know it's heavily modified, but it's not a full on race car with no carpets is it?

I'll see how I get on and if Munich Legends will have one in soon, but if not, it would be good to see what an example as well set up as yours goes like

And what's all this 'Dont tell him Pike' about?

Originally Posted by glendog74

Tyres do play a big part - on a long track with many corners like the Ring.

My first 3 Ring weekends with the CSL were running on PS2s - and i was up to an ok enough pace by then circa 8:40 average BTG during TF sessions.

I tried Cups for the first time on my 4th visit and immediately i dropped 20 seconds on a lap. Ok, i also had APs fitted by this stage but i do not feel that the brakes contributed much in the way of reducing the laptime, just that the brakes did not judder or overheat anymore!

Slowly been 'nibbling' away at BTG times since then...

That's interesting, are you sure the AP's didn't make much difference?

My mate manages a 8:33 BTG with a standard SMG M3 (only mod being yellow stuff pads) and that's on PS2's, although he does know the track rather well. Laps on you tube - search 8:33

He now has a M3 CS and just put the new Michelin Super Sport tyres (supposedly as grippy as Cup's) on so it will be interesting to see the difference.

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

Agreed Daz. Still didn't get mine from last year!

Great thread. Simple answer is just book a test drive. Believe me, you will want.

All this talk of mods, tuning, 1/2 a second here and there means feck all. It ain't a blinkin' racecar. Just enjoy cars like the CSL while you can and add some toys if you want.

I see your point, granted, it's not a race car, but we all long for more performance, and I'm just trying to weigh up my options and the business case for each...

[DuncanR]

Originally Posted by funtime

I have seen your car, and yes I know it's heavily modified, but it's not a full on race car with no carpets is it?

Carpets ??? ... where are they then ?? .. ah ! there it is ! a CF one at top of picture !

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/alb...&pictureid=718

[funtime]

Originally Posted by DuncanR

Carpets ??? ... where are they then ?? .. ah ! there it is ! a CF one at top of picture !

http://www.cslregister.com/forum/alb...&pictureid=718

Fair play, that is hardcore!!!

[AlexGTT]

Duncan doesn't even get out to take a piss these days.

[Mark CSL]

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

Duncan doesn't even get out to take a piss these days.

[toofastforyou]

Originally Posted by titan

Tyres. Pretty sure they test the cars as you'd expect to buy them from the dealer and I'm almost 100% they ran the CSL round the 'ring on cups.

32 seconds is less than half a second per corner given there are so many of the damn things :-)

tyres are not the only variable that will improve a lap time by 32secs. sure they play a part, but as i said before it is the combination of all the mods bmw made to create the csl working harmoniously that allow such a time. it is the whole package that is the csl.