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Old 01-05-2015, 07:18 PM   #41
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Surely if the manufacturer had intended the cars to not have certain features they wouldn't have offered them. For example sunroof, heated leather electric seats or sat nav.

You could apply that theory to any poverty spec model of any car and it doesn't always follow.

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The CSL is not a normal car though, it is a low production special edition, so your poverty spec comment does not apply here. It was designed to be as light as possible and all about the driving experience - that means no extras. Manufacturers provide options for customers on normal cars to make more money - simple.

And to back up the point there was a GT3 RS for sale with no cage and the company struggled to sell it. Why? Because Porsche designed it to be ultimate track day car so supplied bucket seats, cage and harnesses as standard. There was an option to delete the cage and that specific car paid the price because why would you want an RS without a cage?
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Old 01-05-2015, 09:43 PM   #42
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No Xenons or parking sensors here,those two options were only if you were Gay anyway

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Old 01-05-2015, 10:25 PM   #43
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Only aircon and radio.

So,not gay then afterall,
Sounds a bit ac/dc o me.
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:00 PM   #44
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100K price tag!!!!

Bloody Hell.

A thorough research of the vehicle's documentation would be a must.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:01 AM   #45
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I personally don't buy this. The CSL came out as one edition-it did not have an official sport/stripped out or "more" lightweight version vs a "comfort" version so we're talking about the same car. Adding/subtracting the few options here and there does not have that much of an effect. Overall condition/mileage/SH is much more important.
Furthermore adding or removing aircon/stereo and xenons, may add or remove maybe 18kgs in total however I don't expect that to have much of an effect on the price. In fact its very easy to remove the stereo and put a dummy fascia on it and it doesn't take that much to take out the xenons if you want also. Ok the aircon is more involved but that's maybe 12kg in total so not significant in weight overall. Conversely it might put off some people if there is no aircon and therefore limit its marketability(I personally wouldn't buy it without aircon). Lets not overstate this no option issue folks......

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The CSL is not a normal car though, it is a low production special edition, so your poverty spec comment does not apply here. It was designed to be as light as possible and all about the driving experience - that means no extras. Manufacturers provide options for customers on normal cars to make more money - simple.

And to back up the point there was a GT3 RS for sale with no cage and the company struggled to sell it. Why? Because Porsche designed it to be ultimate track day car so supplied bucket seats, cage and harnesses as standard. There was an option to delete the cage and that specific car paid the price because why would you want an RS without a cage?
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:30 AM   #46
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I think some are missing the point here. Whether it's now or 20 years down the the line, the optionless cars will become the most sought after as that's as the manufacturer intended. Anyone who follows the car market knows this.
Keep talking it up Bryce, lol!

In 20 years time any well cared for CSL will be worth a tidy sum; particularly lower mileage examples.

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Mine was specced with aircon & xenons, but no Cups = ultra -spec

It does nudge 180 though
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Old 02-05-2015, 09:06 AM   #47
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Mine was specced with aircon & xenons, but no Cups = ultra -spec

It does nudge 180 though
Yours has the one option that's worth having
The non-option cars could be seen as the poor mans CSL as they were cheaper to buy.
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Old 02-05-2015, 10:41 AM   #48
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The non-option cars could be seen as the poor mans CSL as they were cheaper to buy.
I was under the impression the options were no-cost options...
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I found this about options.....

The short list of extra-cost options included only an anti-theft alarm, green-tinted windshield stripe or climate comfort windshield, velour floor mats, bi-Xenon headlights with headlight washers (washers excluded on UK-spec examples), Park Distance Control, rain sensor with automatic headlight control, automatic climate control and various cassette/CD/mini-disc radios. There were also three no-cost options available: deletion of the rear “M3 CSL” badge, a “smokers package” that included an ashtray and cigarette lighter, plus the fitment of the forged M Double Spoke II alloy wheels with conventional tires from the standard M3 in place of the CSL’s cross-spoke alloy wheels with Cup tires. One final factory option was the removal of the standard 155-mph top speed limiter.

So a no option car would not be lightest, as a rear badge delete was an option. It would also be limited to 155mph.

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