E46 M3 track slag turned around in a day - Page 8

**shimmy** · 02-10-2014, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by adem.csl

The csl was shit all day i just couldn't get it all working together!!
I don't know where i went wrong!!
Got to track set the camber at -3 deg put the cups at 30 psi and set the suspension to full hard.
Bearing in mind i haven't used it on track since donny last year i weren't sure what was what so heated the tyres got them kinda working(2012)brand new cups!then i came in and backed the rear suspension bump by 4 clicks from hard this time the car got really sloppy around the track so came in to find the cups had shot to 38psi so dropped the pressure tightened the suspension by 2 clicks wow it started to really work!!!!
Found a new problem as i got to the first corner the brake was hard then it just dropped to the floor thats why i had my foot on the brake even going round the first corner cos the car didn't slow!!it stayed like that so i was limping the car around as billy caught me up i tried to get past the old bimmer who shut the door on me think was Hamilton thats where it all ended billy was up my ass this old bimmer refused to move i hit fourth billy flew by i went home!!!

As for driving skill bear in mind billies done 10-12 times snetterton that was my second attempt so pretty heart broken it happened but billies a much better driver then me its proven so i need to practice more.

sometimes it just dont feel right adem......dont knock yourself up about it.

is that why you were in a mood on the way home

adem.csl · 02-10-2014, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy

sometimes it just dont feel right adem......dont knock yourself up about it.

is that why you were in a mood on the way home

I was more vex with me then the car because i should have known better!i was in such a rush to get the car to work i didn't consider the fact the tyres were brand new cups not slicks and the brakes haven't worked that hard in a year and the sheer stupidity getting desperate to get past that old bm at Hamilton!!

Its not a nice feeling at all so back to the drawing board try to learn from it and i gaurantee that would never have happened at brands where ive done 10+ sessions!!!

Im still super boiled up even today tbh!!

adem.csl · 02-10-2014, 09:37 PM

http://youtu.be/5JZSYKDPkSM

Here's a decent lap i got held up on!!!
Weren't gonna upload it but it shows my lines!!!
(P.s i didn't get tuition)

cslsuperfan · 02-10-2014, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cslsuperfan

Billy

was that Adem on track ahead of you........ for a bit

Soz Adem

No brakes is a bit of a drama

mattCSLnut · 03-10-2014, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adem.csl

The csl was shit all day i just couldn't get it all working together!!
I don't know where i went wrong!!
Got to track set the camber at -3 deg put the cups at 30 psi and set the suspension to full hard.
Bearing in mind i haven't used it on track since donny last year i weren't sure what was what so heated the tyres got them kinda working(2012)brand new cups!then i came in and backed the rear suspension bump by 4 clicks from hard this time the car got really sloppy around the track so came in to find the cups had shot to 38psi so dropped the pressure tightened the suspension by 2 clicks wow it started to really work!!!!
Found a new problem as i got to the first corner the brake was hard then it just dropped to the floor thats why i had my foot on the brake even going round the first corner cos the car didn't slow!!it stayed like that so i was limping the car around as billy caught me up i tried to get past the old bimmer who shut the door on me think was Hamilton thats where it all ended billy was up my ass this old bimmer refused to move i hit fourth billy flew by i went home!!!

As for driving skill bear in mind billies done 10-12 times snetterton that was my second attempt so pretty heart broken it happened but billies a much better driver then me its proven so i need to practice more.

There's your problem mate ... but I guess you know that now

26 psi cold, all round for Track work on CUPs ... 30 psi or above is for road use only.
http://www.michelin.co.uk/tyres/mich...ilot-sport-cup

billyboysm3 · 03-10-2014, 09:28 AM

Adem, don't beat yourself up.

You drive really well, after we sorted tyre pressures the Csl gripped, the conditions didn't help.

Also I have been a stupid amount of times and had tuition. Also had tuition first thing that morning. Making sure I'm at full power coming out of bends to the straights.

It's your first full day there. You set the M3 up, geo, corner weight, ride height etc so massive thanks to you as she had a stupid amount of grip left that my talent could not handle.

Yes I did pass but only because i knew how to get the best from that corner. Shame i didn't have a go pro in the rear as you did well following me for the next couple of laps.

I'll help get you there, it's just seat time, tuition, seat time, tuition and fun.

Shimmy wasn't born quick, he has had to work for it.

When I first went to snetterton with shimmy and the boys I was like a rabbit in headlights.

Roll on 2nd nov at snetterton and we're learn those lines.

You've set the m3 and your Csl up an absolute dream, be proud, your awesome at what you do. Have fun and the times will drop.

Billy your apprentice technician and t boy.

Chappers · 03-10-2014, 11:12 AM

Does anyone here actually rate Snetterton? I really disliked it when I went in the Noble. When you're on the track it just seems to be
straight,
90° constant radius,
straight,
180° constant radius,
straight,
90° constant radius,
straight,
180° constant radius

It just wasn't very interesting :S

**shimmy** · 03-10-2014, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billyboysm3

Shimmy wasn't born quick, he has had to work for it.

When I first went to snetterton with shimmy and the boys I was like a rabbit in headlights.

.

Too true, im pretty average but have worked hard at the CSL. I get in another car and I go back to being a billy and have to learn again. Sometimes i get in the CSL and im on the pace, sometimes it takes me all day to get to 90% of where i was last time out.

As ONeill says we are all billys and if we were good we would know it. 83SY is good. Im just trying extra hard.

Tuition doesnt always work, doesnt always work straight away and sometimes it can just make sense and take you up a level in understanding.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappers

Does anyone here actually rate Snetterton? I really disliked it when I went in the Noble. When you're on the track it just seems to be
straight,
90° constant radius,
straight,
180° constant radius,
straight,
90° constant radius,
straight,
180° constant radius

It just wasn't very interesting :S

It lacks a couple of good mid speed corners and i think is an average track for the UK. Racers like it as it has a bit of everything and you can overtake. Best part is the Esses through to the back of Coram which is very technical i think and in think you may have missed out on your synopsis above

Chappers · 03-10-2014, 01:00 PM

Perhaps... that was the bit where the Noble made a really awful noise. Maybe it's worth another look. I like variety and it felt a bit samey to me. Funnily enough didn't think it was bad at all when I was there on the bike, probably due to the exact reasons I didn't like it in a car!

Shimmy don't you have the fastest laptime round Spa or am I thinking of 83SY?

billyboysm3 · 03-10-2014, 01:24 PM

I think you might of done the 200 circuit which is effectively a rectangle.

Shimmy is SPA king.

Would love to do spa next year, probably in a BMW courtesy car.

02-10-2014, 09:37 PM	#73
adem.csl S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: north london Posts: 1,012 Casino cash: $7218	http://youtu.be/5JZSYKDPkSM Here's a decent lap i got held up on!!! Weren't gonna upload it but it shows my lines!!! (P.s i didn't get tuition) __________________ Bmw in the blood!!

03-10-2014, 09:28 AM	#76
billyboysm3 CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,001 Casino cash: $25206	Adem, don't beat yourself up. You drive really well, after we sorted tyre pressures the Csl gripped, the conditions didn't help. Also I have been a stupid amount of times and had tuition. Also had tuition first thing that morning. Making sure I'm at full power coming out of bends to the straights. It's your first full day there. You set the M3 up, geo, corner weight, ride height etc so massive thanks to you as she had a stupid amount of grip left that my talent could not handle. Yes I did pass but only because i knew how to get the best from that corner. Shame i didn't have a go pro in the rear as you did well following me for the next couple of laps. I'll help get you there, it's just seat time, tuition, seat time, tuition and fun. Shimmy wasn't born quick, he has had to work for it. When I first went to snetterton with shimmy and the boys I was like a rabbit in headlights. Roll on 2nd nov at snetterton and we're learn those lines. You've set the m3 and your Csl up an absolute dream, be proud, your awesome at what you do. Have fun and the times will drop. Billy your apprentice technician and t boy.

03-10-2014, 11:12 AM	#77
Chappers S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 388 Casino cash: $9894	Does anyone here actually rate Snetterton? I really disliked it when I went in the Noble. When you're on the track it just seems to be straight, 90° constant radius, straight, 180° constant radius, straight, 90° constant radius, straight, 180° constant radius It just wasn't very interesting :S

03-10-2014, 01:00 PM	#79
Chappers S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 388 Casino cash: $9894	Perhaps... that was the bit where the Noble made a really awful noise. Maybe it's worth another look. I like variety and it felt a bit samey to me. Funnily enough didn't think it was bad at all when I was there on the bike, probably due to the exact reasons I didn't like it in a car! Shimmy don't you have the fastest laptime round Spa or am I thinking of 83SY?

03-10-2014, 01:24 PM	#80
billyboysm3 CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,001 Casino cash: $25206	I think you might of done the 200 circuit which is effectively a rectangle. Shimmy is SPA king. Would love to do spa next year, probably in a BMW courtesy car.