BMW subframe goodwill coming to an end...?

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by MCSL

Booked in for 4th Feb 2014 at Elms Bedford for the subframe jobbie...

Cool, is your car 2004 registered?

[Rick H]

Originally Posted by shimmy

If BMW have drawn a line under the period of goodwill, I personally would ignore this and attempt to contact BMW either as a warranty claim under 12 years bodywork OR a 'fit for purpose' claim, ie the car should surely not fall to bits at 10 years.

This is why they gave the 10 years in the first place, and the 10 year arbitrary period is their invention and not subject to any court test, so try them out!

If you put them under pressure you never kow, they might just do it to keep you quiet.

I'd agree with Shimmy here. My view is that there are more than enough cases of this potentially dangerous defect to confirm BMW failed in their duty to supply a car fit for purpose. The CSL is a track car and so should do track car things. I doubt any court would agree repairs are "goodwill", and I am surprised all E46s from the affected time period, including non-M3s, have not been recalled irrespective of warranty or service record.

A few years ago, when the extent of the problem was not that well known, "goodwill" may have been an acceptable label for BMW to hide behind but not now.

Just my two penneth

[MCSL]

Originally Posted by shimmy

Cool, is your car 2004 registered?

6th July 2004, Shimmy

[Neil M]

BMW knew about the inherent problems with the E46 before they produced the CSL, yet still went ahead with their weight saving exercise on the boot floor - Cavalier, Reckless, Irresponsible, or simply Professionally Negligent.

They were well and truly stuffed in the States, where a mass action was taken by owners against them, they were held to be liable irrespective of the age of the vehicle, as they continued production without addressing the problem which was one of basic design, and having ignored customer feedback and hundreds of complaints.

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by Neil M

BMW knew about the inherent problems with the E46 before they produced the CSL, yet still went ahead with their weight saving exercise on the boot floor - Cavalier, Reckless, Irresponsible, or simply Professionally Negligent.
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What weight saving did they make to the boot floor?

[alexk]

No insulation....

On a serious note. There is a remedy and the remedy is the reinforcement epoxy foam.

[Heisenburg]

Originally Posted by Heisenburg

Guys,

Just a heads-up here...I have been in touch with Elms bodyshop in Stansted about some paintwork and wandered onto the subject of subframe repairs. They told me that BMW will not be 'entertaining' any more claims in the new year. That is, all repairs must be completed and invoiced to BMW before this year is out. Now, I know this can't be fully true because I know some of you guys are booked in for repairs in January and beyond.

Anyone else able to shed some light on this...?

Just to close this thread...I popped in again a couple of days ago and apparentaly this was the result of some misinformation floating around their bodyshops at the time but has since been put to bed. So please ignore the OP, 10yrs still stands (a hot topic in itself at the minute!).

Apologies if I put the sh1ts up anybody

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Looks like will have to get mine in for another inspection before 26th March just in case

[shimmy]

Might get mine looked at again as well

[petery]

I've just had mine checked after 76000 miles and no sign of any cracks or problems. Mines a 54 plate car so will be checking again just before the 10 years are up.

Can't understand why some are fine and others are cracking, mines done track work, driven hard on some pretty awful roads, yet some of the ones with issues are pampered garage cars.