Rotors from PFC

krell · 26-06-2013, 12:18 AM

Greetings from Chicago,

Since there's no dedicated sub-forum for track-centric things, I figured I'd stick this here. If the mods feel there's a better location please feel free to move it.

As I'm sure most of you have experienced finding replacement rotors in the CSL size (345mm) besides OEM is very difficult. As a U.S. M3 owner with the "competition package" I have these same rotors and have found that they don't hold up to any serious track time. After a year of working with Bimmerworld and James Clay (a U.S. based shop and racing team that runs in the Rolex series here) we were able to get Peformance Friction to manufacture a rotor that will work with any car using CSL/comp package brakes.

It's a full floating two piece design, and what's quite slick about it is there's no mounting hardware, so rotor ring changes are faster. I put mine on this past weekend and will be running them at Road America this weekend.

I know AP is the go-to source for brakes here, but for those that don't want to go the whole BBK route, this is a viable alternative.

I have no vested interest in this product other than hoping it fills a gap that exists, although admittedly with the time I've put in to try and help get this project done, I hope it's successful.

The link below is to Bimmerworld's site where you can use the pull down on the page to select the CSL rotors. Please note the picture shows the older Direct Drive rotors. I may try and post a picture of mine later.

http://store.bimmerworld.com/perform...ions-p608.aspx

**portlandgrey** · 26-06-2013, 12:53 AM

wow, those are coming in at £714 plus shipping.

krell · 26-06-2013, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by portlandgrey

wow, those are coming in at £714 plus shipping.

Yeah, they're not exactly a cheap date. But frankly they're the best rotor on the market right now in a 345 x 28 mm. PFC supplies brakes to professional race teams (NASCAR (don't laugh) and Rolex series), so they're stuff is top notch.

Here are front and back pictures.

**Mike R** · 26-06-2013, 10:27 AM

Nice product

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Most of us know PFC, as we use their replacement discs for the AP 356mm BBK (once the AP discs have worn out), as their discs are better quality than the AP ones.

northernjim · 26-06-2013, 11:20 AM

I like the look of these, does the ring just push in by hand? The rotor will have to be a snug fit in the bell tho- how are you getting around expansion and dissimilar metal problems?

Neil M · 26-06-2013, 11:44 AM

£714.98 + Post + import duty? That's getting on for £1K for a pair, a bit rich for my pocket no matter how good they look!

northernjim · 26-06-2013, 11:56 AM

They will last longer than OEM tho Neil... At that price you'd hope twice as long at least

s.mac · 27-06-2013, 08:23 PM

I'm sure PFC could do something from their UK office if there was interest from non AP owners. Great disc. Is the rear disc not the same size as a standard M3? PFC already do the dimpled disc for the e46 m3 rear, although last time I checked there was zero stock.

**shimmy** · 27-06-2013, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil M

£714.98 + Post + import duty? That's getting on for £1K for a pair, a bit rich for my pocket no matter how good they look!

And would look a bit silly on this.

Yanto · 27-06-2013, 10:43 PM

26-06-2013, 12:18 AM	#1
krell Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 3 Casino cash: $436	Rotors from PFC Greetings from Chicago, Since there's no dedicated sub-forum for track-centric things, I figured I'd stick this here. If the mods feel there's a better location please feel free to move it. As I'm sure most of you have experienced finding replacement rotors in the CSL size (345mm) besides OEM is very difficult. As a U.S. M3 owner with the "competition package" I have these same rotors and have found that they don't hold up to any serious track time. After a year of working with Bimmerworld and James Clay (a U.S. based shop and racing team that runs in the Rolex series here) we were able to get Peformance Friction to manufacture a rotor that will work with any car using CSL/comp package brakes. It's a full floating two piece design, and what's quite slick about it is there's no mounting hardware, so rotor ring changes are faster. I put mine on this past weekend and will be running them at Road America this weekend. I know AP is the go-to source for brakes here, but for those that don't want to go the whole BBK route, this is a viable alternative. I have no vested interest in this product other than hoping it fills a gap that exists, although admittedly with the time I've put in to try and help get this project done, I hope it's successful. The link below is to Bimmerworld's site where you can use the pull down on the page to select the CSL rotors. Please note the picture shows the older Direct Drive rotors. I may try and post a picture of mine later. http://store.bimmerworld.com/perform...ions-p608.aspx

26-06-2013, 10:27 AM	#4
Mike R S6, Sport On, Traction Off Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,585 Casino cash: $17591	Nice product . Most of us know PFC, as we use their replacement discs for the AP 356mm BBK (once the AP discs have worn out), as their discs are better quality than the AP ones. __________________ Mike R Sarcasm is just a free service I provide. Nordschleife, there's only two barriers to worry about - the ones on the left and the ones on the right . CSL number 044 Last edited by Mike R; 26-06-2013 at 11:41 AM.

26-06-2013, 11:20 AM	#5
northernjim Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: lancashire Posts: 2,082 Casino cash: $20572	I like the look of these, does the ring just push in by hand? The rotor will have to be a snug fit in the bell tho- how are you getting around expansion and dissimilar metal problems? __________________

26-06-2013, 11:44 AM	#6
Neil M Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,340 Casino cash: $19143	£714.98 + Post + import duty? That's getting on for £1K for a pair, a bit rich for my pocket no matter how good they look! __________________ “With the CSL, BMW have achieved The Ultimate Driving Machine” SG CSL '051'

26-06-2013, 11:56 AM	#7
northernjim Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: lancashire Posts: 2,082 Casino cash: $20572	They will last longer than OEM tho Neil... At that price you'd hope twice as long at least __________________

26-06-2013, 12:53 AM	#2
portlandgrey S4 - Getting the hang of it Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 153 Casino cash: $8449	wow, those are coming in at £714 plus shipping.

27-06-2013, 08:23 PM	#8
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	I'm sure PFC could do something from their UK office if there was interest from non AP owners. Great disc. Is the rear disc not the same size as a standard M3? PFC already do the dimpled disc for the e46 m3 rear, although last time I checked there was zero stock.

27-06-2013, 10:43 PM	#10
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