Went to look at my first CSL - some questions

deanobeano · 11-03-2013, 07:06 PM

Hi All

Just back from a viewing on a vehicle, and this has raised some questions:

Test drive went fine- a good 20 minutes (nice noise!)

Gear changes were fairly brutal in S5 (or was it S6) in sport mode, although they were smooth if you came off the throttle slightly before changing.

bearing in mind it was circa -2C, I noticed that the water temp gauge didn't make it to half way - it was more like halfway between the top of the blue cold and the first dot (first and second dots for normal temp)
Oil temp was at the halfway point (or just under)
Normal? or potential issues (thermostat or something?)

Drivers seat didn't tip forward to allow access into the back - seller said they would fix this

one side of the front headlamps had condensation (non xenons) - would this just be a seal to put right?

The rear seats had quite a few scuff marks, mainly where the seat belts hook up to seat bases - looks like the thin paint had worn off, only cosmetic, but is this typical for CSL's?

Car was mid 50's with regards to mileage. Has full BMWSH and up until last month was under Mondial warranty.

Would the above issues be typical, bearing in mind this is the first I have seen.

Thanks in advance

Barry C · 11-03-2013, 07:17 PM

The gear change is supposed to be brutal. You shouldn't lift off as it slips the clutch and wears it out!

As for the rest, I'm not sure, it depends how picky you are I suppose. Maybe go view another for comparison

**Mike R** · 11-03-2013, 07:42 PM

Hi Deano,
Which one was this that you went to see?

deanobeano · 11-03-2013, 07:44 PM

It was the SG one NJ had

jibm · 11-03-2013, 08:13 PM

Temp gauge is not right....it should get to temp easily within 20 mins. it should stay in the middle and only move very slightly if at all. I’d want that sorted

deanobeano · 11-03-2013, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibm

Temp gauge is not right....it should get to temp easily within 20 mins. it should stay in the middle and only move very slightly if at all. I’d want that sorted

That was my thought - all the cars I've had get up to the centre of the temp gauge fairly quickly (and many manufacturers employ a fiddle factor to ensure that it stays there, unless temps really do begin to go awry)

Could be as simple as a thermostat allowing water to run to the radiator when not required, but that would result in lower engine efficiencies and reduced fuel consumption.

Enough to put me off? I'm not sure but at 27K i would have expected better...

Anyone with the itch to sell - please PM - beer aswell as cash awaits

cslsuperfan · 11-03-2013, 09:33 PM

Nick has a good relationship with BMW Oxford
i'm sure he will rectify all the niggles through BMW

you have the option of extending the warranty
so wait the 31 days and take it to bmw for a bit of goodwill haggling
they may be willing to help on the trim issues
i know its not strictly covered but i have had a steering wheel and sill plates replaced in the past. not necessarily covered but got done because the dealer was accommodating.

s1csl · 11-03-2013, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cslsuperfan

Nick has a good relationship with BMW Oxford
i'm sure he will rectify all the niggles through BMW

you have the option of extending the warranty
so wait the 31 days and take it to bmw for a bit of goodwill haggling
they may be willing to help on the trim issues
i know its not strictly covered but i have had a steering wheel and sill plates replaced in the past. not necessarily covered but got done because the dealer was accommodating.

Had my seat done on good will

s.mac · 11-03-2013, 09:50 PM

You would have thought the previous owner, with a warranty, would have sorted all the niggles before selling ??

shane@mbtech · 11-03-2013, 10:01 PM

If its got the tropical/motorsport stat in, then I found they run cooler, might have this fitted, especially if it was used on track.

11-03-2013, 07:06 PM	#1
deanobeano S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 310 Casino cash: $3117	Went to look at my first CSL - some questions Hi All Just back from a viewing on a vehicle, and this has raised some questions: Test drive went fine- a good 20 minutes (nice noise!) Gear changes were fairly brutal in S5 (or was it S6) in sport mode, although they were smooth if you came off the throttle slightly before changing. bearing in mind it was circa -2C, I noticed that the water temp gauge didn't make it to half way - it was more like halfway between the top of the blue cold and the first dot (first and second dots for normal temp) Oil temp was at the halfway point (or just under) Normal? or potential issues (thermostat or something?) Drivers seat didn't tip forward to allow access into the back - seller said they would fix this one side of the front headlamps had condensation (non xenons) - would this just be a seal to put right? The rear seats had quite a few scuff marks, mainly where the seat belts hook up to seat bases - looks like the thin paint had worn off, only cosmetic, but is this typical for CSL's? Car was mid 50's with regards to mileage. Has full BMWSH and up until last month was under Mondial warranty. Would the above issues be typical, bearing in mind this is the first I have seen. Thanks in advance

11-03-2013, 07:42 PM	#3
Mike R S6, Sport On, Traction Off Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Norwich Posts: 1,585 Casino cash: $17591	Hi Deano, Which one was this that you went to see? __________________ Mike R Sarcasm is just a free service I provide. Nordschleife, there's only two barriers to worry about - the ones on the left and the ones on the right . CSL number 044

11-03-2013, 08:13 PM	#5
jibm S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Asteroids Champion! Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 591 Casino cash: $14218	Temp gauge is not right....it should get to temp easily within 20 mins. it should stay in the middle and only move very slightly if at all. I’d want that sorted __________________ Never pat a burning dog

11-03-2013, 09:33 PM	#7
cslsuperfan Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: wales Posts: 2,222 Casino cash: $19520	NJ csl Nick has a good relationship with BMW Oxford i'm sure he will rectify all the niggles through BMW you have the option of extending the warranty so wait the 31 days and take it to bmw for a bit of goodwill haggling they may be willing to help on the trim issues i know its not strictly covered but i have had a steering wheel and sill plates replaced in the past. not necessarily covered but got done because the dealer was accommodating.

11-03-2013, 07:17 PM	#2
Barry C S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Dublin, Ireland Posts: 300 Casino cash: $3349	The gear change is supposed to be brutal. You shouldn't lift off as it slips the clutch and wears it out! As for the rest, I'm not sure, it depends how picky you are I suppose. Maybe go view another for comparison

11-03-2013, 07:44 PM	#4
deanobeano S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 310 Casino cash: $3117	It was the SG one NJ had

11-03-2013, 09:50 PM	#9
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	You would have thought the previous owner, with a warranty, would have sorted all the niggles before selling ??

11-03-2013, 10:01 PM	#10
shane@mbtech CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: warrington Posts: 5,419 Casino cash: $19783	If its got the tropical/motorsport stat in, then I found they run cooler, might have this fitted, especially if it was used on track.