Best CSLs over £35,000 ???

Pip1968 · 06-12-2012, 05:53 PM

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SPOTTED: BMW M3 CS

A rather rare E46 M3 catches our eye - but this one isn't a CSL

When BMW launched the E46 M3 CSL, one question was repeated by the world's motoring press and enthusiasts; can this car really be worth £18,000 more than a regular M3? Today, approaching a decade after the CSL's launch, it remains a valid query.

Smoked headlights aren't original, but are easily replaced
The very best CSLs are still commanding over £35,000, but our featured M3 is available for £14,000, its additional miles accounting for the even greater price difference. Moreover, it isn't a regular E46 M3; it's a CS. With a manual gearbox, an interface between man and machine so cruelly denied to CSL owners.
The CS was the E46 M3's swansong, a run-out special that appears largely neglected now in the face of spiralling CSL values. Whilst power remained identical to standard at 343hp, the CS received the brakes, steering wheel and steering rack from the CSL. BMW also fitted the M-Track mode to the traction and stability controls, loosening their respective intervention thresholds. The CS package was completed by some CSL-esque Y-spoke alloy wheels.
It wasn't, despite the nomenclature, a cut-down CSL. Consider the CS instead as an M3 Plus and you'll be closer to the truth. So although there's no carbon airbox or weight loss, an M3 CS does offer small but tangible improvements over the regular car. The revised steering gives even better response over the standard M3 and revised springs aid its B-road composure. For £14,000, a manual CS appears stunning value.

Manual 'box is a luxury denied to CSL owners
Of course, it is possible to bag an E46 M3 for significantly less. Indeed, if you're brave enough to take on a car with nearly 150,000 miles and a new engine, this early M3 can be had for under £6,500. However, when just a couple of thousand pounds more buys this just-serviced 2002 M3, it seems wise to spend a little bit more to secure a lower-mileage car.
Spending more than four figures means some of the best E46 M3s are within grasp such as this Phoenix Yellow manual version. Some of the very last special-edition M3s are being sold in the teens but, against the aforementioned CS, the premium appears unnecessary.
Finally, whilst it isn't as dynamically capable as the coupe, an M3 Convertible is more than a match for its open-topped Mercedes and Audi rivals. Just under £7,000 buys a manual convertible with a full BMW service history.

Think of the CS as an 'M3 Plus'
With so much choice, choosing the right M3 isn't an easy task. Messrs. Harris and Trent are advocates of the basics-is-best philosophy; a manual car with the 18-inch wheels. Personally, the lure of that CS would probably prove too strong, especially given its rarity as a three-pedal car.
There are a few key points to be wary of with any E46 M3; for a comprehensive list, see the PH M3 buying guide. It is vital to ensure the first running-in service was completed at 1,200 miles, and check any SMG-equipped cars for undue clutch judder. But the wealth of E46s for sale attests to their inherent dependability, only boosting its credentials as a used purchase.

BMW M3 (E46) CS
Engine: 3246cc straight six
Transmission: Six-speed manual, RWD
Power (hp): 343@7,900rpm
Torque (lb ft): 269@5,000rpm
CO2: 323g/km
MPG: 21.1
Recorded mileage: 64,000
First registered: 2006
Price new: £43,555
Yours for: £13,990

Neil M · 06-12-2012, 06:15 PM

The particular CS has been around for ages with it pimped out windows, sorry Privacy glass, it first appeared in Hamann guise, badges everywhere and mostly in the wrong places.

They now appeared to have either fallen off or have been removed and replaced with BMW ones. However the go faster number plate carrier remains, £2/3K over similar ones which have sold, and at £14 I definitely don't see it going anywhere.

LeinsCSL · 06-12-2012, 06:23 PM

There's some load of sh1te being written in that thread. The one about the "CS being 98% of a CSL" especially

chrisburns · 06-12-2012, 06:26 PM

words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.

Yanto · 06-12-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisburns

words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.

Snob

LeinsCSL · 06-12-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisburns

words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.

I pointed out that I'd never seen a CS with mud-flaps Chris, so they agreed to reduce it to 97%

chrisburns · 06-12-2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yanto

Snob

Chav

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Originally Posted by LeinsCSL

I pointed out that I'd never seen a CS with mud-flaps Chris, so they agreed to reduce it to 97%

Fook you Leins

Yanto · 06-12-2012, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LeinsCSL

I pointed out that I'd never seen a CS with mud-flaps Chris, so they agreed to reduce it to 97%

Trawler · 06-12-2012, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chrisburns
words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.
Snob

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Originally Posted by Yanto

Snob

That makes to of us. At least we are adding a bit of class.

Yanto · 06-12-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Trawler

Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisburns
words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.
Snob

That makes to of us. At least we are adding a bit of class.

At least I can spell

06-12-2012, 05:53 PM	#1
Pip1968 S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kent, England Posts: 940 Casino cash: $8383	Best CSLs over £35,000 ??? http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...aign=2012-12-5 SPOTTED: BMW M3 CS A rather rare E46 M3 catches our eye - but this one isn't a CSL When BMW launched the E46 M3 CSL, one question was repeated by the world's motoring press and enthusiasts; can this car really be worth £18,000 more than a regular M3? Today, approaching a decade after the CSL's launch, it remains a valid query. Smoked headlights aren't original, but are easily replaced The very best CSLs are still commanding over £35,000, but our featured M3 is available for £14,000, its additional miles accounting for the even greater price difference. Moreover, it isn't a regular E46 M3; it's a CS. With a manual gearbox, an interface between man and machine so cruelly denied to CSL owners. The CS was the E46 M3's swansong, a run-out special that appears largely neglected now in the face of spiralling CSL values. Whilst power remained identical to standard at 343hp, the CS received the brakes, steering wheel and steering rack from the CSL. BMW also fitted the M-Track mode to the traction and stability controls, loosening their respective intervention thresholds. The CS package was completed by some CSL-esque Y-spoke alloy wheels. It wasn't, despite the nomenclature, a cut-down CSL. Consider the CS instead as an M3 Plus and you'll be closer to the truth. So although there's no carbon airbox or weight loss, an M3 CS does offer small but tangible improvements over the regular car. The revised steering gives even better response over the standard M3 and revised springs aid its B-road composure. For £14,000, a manual CS appears stunning value. Manual 'box is a luxury denied to CSL owners Of course, it is possible to bag an E46 M3 for significantly less. Indeed, if you're brave enough to take on a car with nearly 150,000 miles and a new engine, this early M3 can be had for under £6,500. However, when just a couple of thousand pounds more buys this just-serviced 2002 M3, it seems wise to spend a little bit more to secure a lower-mileage car. Spending more than four figures means some of the best E46 M3s are within grasp such as this Phoenix Yellow manual version. Some of the very last special-edition M3s are being sold in the teens but, against the aforementioned CS, the premium appears unnecessary. Finally, whilst it isn't as dynamically capable as the coupe, an M3 Convertible is more than a match for its open-topped Mercedes and Audi rivals. Just under £7,000 buys a manual convertible with a full BMW service history. Think of the CS as an 'M3 Plus' With so much choice, choosing the right M3 isn't an easy task. Messrs. Harris and Trent are advocates of the basics-is-best philosophy; a manual car with the 18-inch wheels. Personally, the lure of that CS would probably prove too strong, especially given its rarity as a three-pedal car. There are a few key points to be wary of with any E46 M3; for a comprehensive list, see the PH M3 buying guide. It is vital to ensure the first running-in service was completed at 1,200 miles, and check any SMG-equipped cars for undue clutch judder. But the wealth of E46s for sale attests to their inherent dependability, only boosting its credentials as a used purchase. BMW M3 (E46) CS Engine: 3246cc straight six Transmission: Six-speed manual, RWD Power (hp): 343@7,900rpm Torque (lb ft): 269@5,000rpm CO2: 323g/km MPG: 21.1 Recorded mileage: 64,000 First registered: 2006 Price new: £43,555 Yours for: £13,990

06-12-2012, 06:23 PM	#3
LeinsCSL S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,240 Casino cash: $13662	There's some load of sh1te being written in that thread. The one about the "CS being 98% of a CSL" especially

06-12-2012, 06:26 PM	#4
chrisburns S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: N.Ireland Posts: 653 Casino cash: $12778	words cannot quantify just how much I dislike PH. It really is the worst online community in the entire world.