C63

hoshy · 06-04-2012, 01:08 AM

Evening chaps,

Who has had a good blat against a C63?

Its not that often that I seen one to play with and remember having my arse handed to me in the e36 (expected

) but tonight I kept up and outran one a number of times.

Not yet checkes the p/w ratio on the 63 but expect it should win.

Was this guy not trying hard or is the CSL more of a match than I thought?

For context this was medium traffic autobahn so lots of 100 to 150 runs. I was redlining 4th to 5th.

Btw - what are the accepted best upshift points? Get the feeling redlining past 3rd isnt worth it.

**CraigMillwardCroft** · 06-04-2012, 10:40 AM

What is a C63

shane@mbtech · 06-04-2012, 10:45 AM

In a straighth line the C63 is quite an animal, even more so with performance pack power upgrade. almost 500bhp.

A CSL wont keep up in a straightline thats for sure.

I have a good background in all things AMG and M too.

I suspect his car may be sick, or just poorly maintained and an early one- even so it should have kicked your ass.

**CraigMillwardCroft** · 06-04-2012, 10:52 AM

Must be a Merc then

shane@mbtech · 06-04-2012, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigMillwardCroft

Must be a Merc then

Aye, and a very nice one too IMO, its on my radar for next car

hoshy · 06-04-2012, 08:49 PM

Agreed - it's an awesome car. I'll be very tempted to have one in future but I just can't tear myself away from BMWs.

Guess this guy just must have not been giving it 110% commitement. Maybe having whatever kind of sport modes etc turned off.

Just had a quick look at the p/w figures and it's closer than I thought,

CSL: 1385kg / 360ps == 260ps/ton
C63: 1723 / 451 == 262

Weights are probably not accurate for all the usual reasons but even so, it clearly puts them in the same league on a p/w basis. Of course the extra torque and 7 speed box will still give the merc the adv. He was two up also, there was only my skinny arse in the car and I was low on juice too.

**AlexGTT** · 07-04-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hoshy

Agreed - it's an awesome car. I'll be very tempted to have one in future but I just can't tear myself away from BMWs.

Guess this guy just must have not been giving it 110% commitement. Maybe having whatever kind of sport modes etc turned off.

Just had a quick look at the p/w figures and it's closer than I thought,

CSL: 1385kg / 360ps == 260ps/ton
C63: 1723 / 451 == 262

Weights are probably not accurate for all the usual reasons but even so, it clearly puts them in the same league on a p/w basis. Of course the extra torque and 7 speed box will still give the merc the adv. He was two up also, there was only my skinny arse in the car and I was low on juice too.

P/W won't make that performance up in that kind of roll on. Power talks so strongly suspect wasn't fully on it. He should have easily out-pulled you. Maybe he just wanted to hear the CSL in all it's full noise glory.

My E90 is much faster than a CSL in that speed range and I know it's slightly slower than a C63 in a straight line.

shane@mbtech · 07-04-2012, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AlexGTT

P/W won't make that performance up in that kind of roll on. Power talks so strongly suspect wasn't fully on it. He should have easily out-pulled you. Maybe he just wanted to hear the CSL in all it's full noise glory.

My E90 is much faster than a CSL in that speed range and I know it's slightly slower than a C63 in a straight line.

Was about to say that, my e92 pulled away from Csl in straight line, and c63 has edge on e92.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a c63. Just waiting for my sales guy to return from holiday. I'll gladly take it on track to show the csl's a clean pair of heels only for them to pass me as I'm leaving a smoke screen going round the next corner. Not quite as nimble as the m cars.

**shimmy** · 07-04-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lawsy

Was about to say that, my e92 pulled away from Csl in straight line, and c63 has edge on e92.

I'm about to pull the trigger on a c63. Just waiting for my sales guy to return from holiday. I'll gladly take it on track to show the csl's a clean pair of heels only for them to pass me as I'm leaving a smoke screen going round the next corner. Not quite as nimble as the m cars.

i think the main thing youll notice lawsy is your use of tyres increases and also people start trying to flag you down after 10pm at night

**CraigMillwardCroft** · 07-04-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shimmy

i think the main thing youll notice lawsy is your use of tyres increases and also people start trying to flag you down after 10pm at night

06-04-2012, 01:08 AM	#1
hoshy S3 - On the open road Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 80 Casino cash: $833	C63 Evening chaps, Who has had a good blat against a C63? Its not that often that I seen one to play with and remember having my arse handed to me in the e36 (expected ) but tonight I kept up and outran one a number of times. Not yet checkes the p/w ratio on the 63 but expect it should win. Was this guy not trying hard or is the CSL more of a match than I thought? For context this was medium traffic autobahn so lots of 100 to 150 runs. I was redlining 4th to 5th. Btw - what are the accepted best upshift points? Get the feeling redlining past 3rd isnt worth it.

06-04-2012, 10:40 AM	#2
CraigMillwardCroft CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Marlow Posts: 3,973 Casino cash: $18153	What is a C63

06-04-2012, 10:45 AM	#3
shane@mbtech CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: warrington Posts: 5,419 Casino cash: $19783	In a straighth line the C63 is quite an animal, even more so with performance pack power upgrade. almost 500bhp. A CSL wont keep up in a straightline thats for sure. I have a good background in all things AMG and M too. I suspect his car may be sick, or just poorly maintained and an early one- even so it should have kicked your ass.

06-04-2012, 10:52 AM	#4
CraigMillwardCroft CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Marlow Posts: 3,973 Casino cash: $18153	Must be a Merc then

06-04-2012, 08:49 PM	#6
hoshy S3 - On the open road Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 80 Casino cash: $833	Agreed - it's an awesome car. I'll be very tempted to have one in future but I just can't tear myself away from BMWs. Guess this guy just must have not been giving it 110% commitement. Maybe having whatever kind of sport modes etc turned off. Just had a quick look at the p/w figures and it's closer than I thought, CSL: 1385kg / 360ps == 260ps/ton C63: 1723 / 451 == 262 Weights are probably not accurate for all the usual reasons but even so, it clearly puts them in the same league on a p/w basis. Of course the extra torque and 7 speed box will still give the merc the adv. He was two up also, there was only my skinny arse in the car and I was low on juice too.