New machine -again

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by lawsy

I can get 600bhp for less than £1500

if only talent was as cheap


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[GregorJP]

Originally Posted by Graham

Is it simply the outright power that wins the GTR over? It just surprises me so many of you are jumping from what some people say is the ultimate drivers car to one driven by computers?

Lucky enough to have both, but getting to the point where one of them is going to have to depart, and I am struggling to decide. GTR does drive itself most of the time, and my sense is that it takes crazy commitment on track to get the most out of it. You've got to switch the stability off and get comfortable with the car moving around beneath you at speed. I don't have the balls for that. CSL murders it for emotion, driver involvement, balance, character and class.

However...

...if you drive the GTR and hop back into the CSL, it feels as slow as a 1.2 Fiesta. The turbo boost and the effortless acceleration is pretty addictive.

On another note, was at Spa earlier this week. Good to see a couple of CSLs even though the weather was crap. Good to meet you Barry.

[derek]

Originally Posted by GregorJP

Lucky enough to have both, but getting to the point where one of them is going to have to depart, and I am struggling to decide. GTR does drive itself most of the time, and my sense is that it takes crazy commitment on track to get the most out of it. You've got to switch the stability off and get comfortable with the car moving around beneath you at speed. I don't have the balls for that. CSL murders it for emotion, driver involvement, balance, character and class.

However...

...if you drive the GTR and hop back into the CSL, it feels as slow as a 1.2 Fiesta. The turbo boost and the effortless acceleration is pretty addictive.

On another note, was at Spa earlier this week. Good to see a couple of CSLs even though the weather was crap. Good to meet you Barry.

Same position as you Gregor one needs to go soon but think it will be gtr. Had gtr on track and it feels heavy prefer Csl on track. Gtr acceleration is addictive with 0-60 under 3 secs using it as a daily just now not as much grip as people think it does move about quite a bit.

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by derek

Shane do you ever keep a car long enough to pay road tax. If your selling the Toyo's let me know

You have a point with the road tax


Well I have sold the BBS CHR's, so the 888 will either be up for sale, or going onto the standard rims.

Ill PM you.

And to the people who think they drive themselves, up to a point they are easy to drive, but push on and its another animal. And traction off is a must.

[shane@mbtech]

Originally Posted by shimmy

if only talent was as cheap


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I can teach you, £150 for a day.
If I teach you everything I can do with 1 arm, Imagine how fast you could be using 2

[derek]

Originally Posted by lawsy

I can teach you, £150 for a day.
If I teach you everything I can do with 1 arm, Imagine how fast you could be using 2

I followed you at oulten park and anyone who can keep up with you can drive you would embarass most people who think they can drive :-)

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Originally Posted by lawsy

I can teach you, £150 for a day.
If I teach you everything I can do with 1 arm, Imagine how fast you could be using 2

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by derek

I followed you at oulten park and anyone who can keep up with you can drive you would embarass most people who think they can drive :-)

Ooooh don't, his head is big enough already


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[Graham]

Originally Posted by GregorJP

Lucky enough to have both, but getting to the point where one of them is going to have to depart, and I am struggling to decide. GTR does drive itself most of the time, and my sense is that it takes crazy commitment on track to get the most out of it. You've got to switch the stability off and get comfortable with the car moving around beneath you at speed. I don't have the balls for that. CSL murders it for emotion, driver involvement, balance, character and class.

However...

...if you drive the GTR and hop back into the CSL, it feels as slow as a 1.2 Fiesta. The turbo boost and the effortless acceleration is pretty addictive.

On another note, was at Spa earlier this week. Good to see a couple of CSLs even though the weather was crap. Good to meet you Barry.

Very lucky to have both! And your diagnosis is almost as I suspected really. Especially getting back into the CSL and it feeling slow.

I'd love to go out in a GTR that's being driven properly and see what these cars are all about

[shimmy]

But driving the mx5 though me anybody can drive a new faster car faster than their last car, but who can drive the car they have as fast as it can go.