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Old 16-06-2013, 12:19 PM   #1
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How much slip angle does the mtrack allow before intervening?
I find that it cuts in almost instantly when the car starts sliding,I understood that it would allow a good bit of slip angle?
Only have the car a few weeks
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Old 17-06-2013, 03:05 PM   #2
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Anyone?
Not looking for a technical answer just is mine a bit over protective
I was under the impression it was suitable for track use, I find it much too intrusive and think I would have to switch dsc off on track.
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Old 17-06-2013, 03:12 PM   #3
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I had the same problem its not the best as it stops wheel spin as well out the hairpin

DSC OFF SPORT ON GEARBOX IN SETTING 6
Stay out the walls and on the black stuff
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Old 17-06-2013, 03:48 PM   #4
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I did less than 1 lap in mtrack mode until I just turned dsc off.... The only reason I was using it as I'd never done a track day in rwd..


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Old 17-06-2013, 04:01 PM   #5
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Hi Dave,
My experience of M-trac is that it seems to operate more on wheel speed disparity rather than slip angle, so sometimes it will let you slide quite reasonable angles (if the front and rear wheels aren't rotating at hugely different speeds) and others (when you mash the throttle), it will cut power with virtually no angle what-so-ever, if it has "lit the back tyres up". Consequently I run it EVERYWHERE with the DSC off as it has such a nice diff, chassis and steering .

If the road is dry, the car is so forgiving and easy to drive (if you're used to rear wheel drive) that turning it off means that as long as you don't give a big lift when it slides, it is like a big go-kart and self-centres with the appropriate amount of opposite lock.
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I use it all the time, it's great
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Old 17-06-2013, 07:19 PM   #7
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I had the same problem its not the best as it stops wheel spin as well out the hairpin

DSC OFF SPORT ON GEARBOX IN SETTING 6
Stay out the walls and on the black stuff
Ok great thanks for the input. Thought it was just me

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I did less than 1 lap in mtrack mode until I just turned dsc off.... The only reason I was using it as I'd never done a track day in rwd..


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I'd imagine its completly useless on track alright.

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Hi Dave,
My experience of M-trac is that it seems to operate more on wheel speed disparity rather than slip angle, so sometimes it will let you slide quite reasonable angles (if the front and rear wheels aren't rotating at hugely different speeds) and others (when you mash the throttle), it will cut power with virtually no angle what-so-ever, if it has "lit the back tyres up". Consequently I run it EVERYWHERE with the DSC off as it has such a nice diff, chassis and steering .

If the road is dry, the car is so forgiving and easy to drive (if you're used to rear wheel drive) that turning it off means that as long as you don't give a big lift when it slides, it is like a big go-kart and self-centres with the appropriate amount of opposite lock.
Excellent explenation thanks very much.
I think I will run with dsc off all the time like you if it's dry, that's what I had ended up doing anyway,I just thought that mtrack was designed for that purpose, I was just expecting too much from it I suppose.
My car has sport mode on as the default setting so some previous owner must have got that coded,I'd imagine he had dsc off then also.
Does anyone drive with sport mode off?

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On the road shimmy? I just find it so unpredictable,maybe I need to try it more
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Old 17-06-2013, 08:02 PM   #8
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I find it ok mostly but I ain't that quick though! I think if it's flashing to much may be you're on the other side of grip levels a little may be, unless you're just wanting to be loon and at over £600 a pair rubber ain't cheap!

It can be hindrance though aswell as help when it comes to keeping it on the black stuff. If you apply corrective as it does you both get in a muddle! Slalom on Ice tiles etc are a good place to find out what's what.
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i think driving flat out id be hard pushed to drive 0.5s faster with Mtrack OFF compared to on. I think ONeil is the same.
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Old 17-06-2013, 08:40 PM   #10
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i think driving flat out id be hard pushed to drive 0.5s faster with Mtrack OFF compared to on. I think ONeil is the same.
Me too, if you are smooth it is fine, won a 2 hour race with it turned on.
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