CSL rear window glass-- NLA?

[alexk]

Originally Posted by Obioban

You realize every CSL is a CSLized simple M3?

I agree you should email BMW, though. Not making parts for a car that has only been out of production for 10 years is an absurd situation. I wouldn't expect to curb the flow to non CSL owners, though-- they're all already going throw legitimate CSL owners. What can they do beyond that?

I am not sure I am following your logic.
The CSL had serious development and a lot of unique parts from the factory.
The production line was modified to produce CSLs, and it was not just normal M3s fitted with some extra parts.

Why the CSL was not sold in your country is not my problem, it is yours and this no excuse to take parts not intended to be fitted in your cars.
I know that I paid 3 times more to get a CSL rather than a normal M3.
I also know that I pay much higher insurance premium to insure a CSL rather than a normal M3 (due to the cost of parts).
And I know that I will be totally pissed of if I need to get replacement parts for my car and they are not available because some CSL wannabes fitted them in their simple M3s to make them look like a CSL.

And to put things in perspective, imagine every 316-330 owner putting all the M3 parts.
Then you have an issue and you need a front bumper and BMW says, sorry you can't have the M3 bumper, it's sold out (to all simple 3 series owners), we can only supply to you the bumper of the 328ci, how would you feel ?


Guys, let's draft a letter and we collect all the CSL onwers including their original VIN numbers and we send it to BMW.

This stupidity needs to stop !

[shimmy]

HATE is a very string word.


Animosity might be more accurate

[Obioban]

Why not instead petition them to ramp up production instead of limiting it?

[cossack]

Originally Posted by alexk

I am not sure I am following your logic.
The CSL had serious development and a lot of unique parts from the factory.
The production line was modified to produce CSLs, and it was not just normal M3s fitted with some extra parts.

Why the CSL was not sold in your country is not my problem, it is yours and this no excuse to take parts not intended to be fitted in your cars.
I know that I paid 3 times more to get a CSL rather than a normal M3.
I also know that I pay much higher insurance premium to insure a CSL rather than a normal M3 (due to the cost of parts).
And I know that I will be totally pissed of if I need to get replacement parts for my car and they are not available because some CSL wannabes fitted them in their simple M3s to make them look like a CSL.

And to put things in perspective, imagine every 316-330 owner putting all the M3 parts.
Then you have an issue and you need a front bumper and BMW says, sorry you can't have the M3 bumper, it's sold out (to all simple 3 series owners), we can only supply to you the bumper of the 328ci, how would you feel ?


Guys, let's draft a letter and we collect all the CSL onwers including their original VIN numbers and we send it to BMW.

This stupidity needs to stop !

I've spent way more then you have or possibly will have on my car. That logic is mute. Let's see my car was 68,500 USD when i bought it new. My OEM CSL parts cost me 26,000 USD over the years. My aftermarket parts have cost me another 20,000 USD. So under your logic the only way you'd be happy with me having the parts is if I bought a wrecked M3 CSL chassis that I would be able to purchase parts from, and for or would have to fix up to drive over in the US.

[cossack]

Per another forum discussion. Would you really want me to buy a used CSL, just to strip all the parts out of her so I can drive one legally in the US. It would have actually been cheaper for me to do so. Also if anyone is looking to purchase all the CSL parts, it is now cheap enough to do so by buying a CSL and gutting one. So would you rather someone break a real CSL just for parts, even if it's not a wrecked CSL.

Best situation/outcome here is BMW ramps up production.

I am legally insured for all the oem csl parts, I am paying a premium for all my oem csl parts. I also have passed emissions with my CSL parts. BMW didn't try hard enough to bring it over.

[alexk]

Originally Posted by cossack

I've spent way more then you have or possibly will have on my car. That logic is mute. Let's see my car was 68,500 USD when i bought it new. My OEM CSL parts cost me 26,000 USD over the years. My aftermarket parts have cost me another 20,000 USD. So under your logic the only way you'd be happy with me having the parts is if I bought a wrecked M3 CSL chassis that I would be able to purchase parts from, and for or would have to fix up to drive over in the US.

If you bought an original CSL, I wouldn't mind.
As far as money is concerned, I paid for my CSL 85k CHF (91k USD).
My car was sold brand new in Switzerland 135k CHF (145k USD).
A 4 year old M3 E46 costed 30k CHF, 1/3 of the CSL price.
Any further questions ?

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by cossack

I've spent way more then you have or possibly will have on my car. That logic is mute. Let's see my car was 68,500 USD when i bought it new. My OEM CSL parts cost me 26,000 USD over the years. My aftermarket parts have cost me another 20,000 USD. So under your logic the only way you'd be happy with me having the parts is if I bought a wrecked M3 CSL chassis that I would be able to purchase parts from, and for or would have to fix up to drive over in the US.

That's what it cost....now what is it worth?

[alexk]

Originally Posted by cossack

I am legally insured for all the oem csl parts, I am paying a premium for all my oem csl parts. I also have passed emissions with my CSL parts. BMW didn't try hard enough to bring it over.

So if you smash the bumper you will show up to the BMW dealership and they will order for you a CSL bumper using your VIN for example ?
I don't see how this will fly to be honest.

[cossack]

Originally Posted by alexk

So if you smash the bumper you will show up to the BMW dealership and they will order for you a CSL bumper using your VIN for example ?
I don't see how this will fly to be honest.

Lol, i did just get into an accident two months ago my insurance covered it all. That's for me to worry about and figure out. You don't need a vin to order csl parts. If i did, i'd just buy a wrecked csl chassis that would be registered in my name keep it in a storage unit somewhere and use it as a mule. Thanks for giving me the idea, if you go the route of suggesting restricting parts. You're not gonna stop people from sourcing parts. There are three real CSL's in the States, those members tend not to share their secret on how they imported them. I've seen one in Mountain View, CA that's legitimate.

It's not my problem you over payed for the CSL. List price for UK for the CSL was 55,000 GBP. Obviously the argument here is not that i didn't want to pay, or couldn't afford to pay. The problem was bringing one over legally.

So don't be getting pissed of at enthusiasts. Campaign for BMW to make more parts. In any case i don't see how for BMW making parts is a bad thing. It equals more money for them in the long run. It's not like they are selling the parts at cost.

[cossack]

Originally Posted by shimmy

That's what it cost....now what is it worth?

Worth is irrelevant, as it's not for sale. It also never will be, unless I die. I'm planning on getting an AM Vantage next. This cars staying. I know kbb value won't be high, and i don't care. The csl parts definitely though have mostly held their value, even appreciated for some. If i parted everything csl out, plus sold my car I'd be able to purchase a used CSL in Europe. But that's not gonna happen, as I enjoy my 2005 CS that's been mostly converted to a CSL. I'm also not moving outside the US anytime soon, otherwise I'd look at a real CSL.