Liqui Moly Oil

[cantfind1]

Anyone tried it? Any thoughts....seem to be a lot of BMW owners changing to this oil rather than TWS.....

Bring on the oil debate again...

http://www.liquimoly.co.uk/index.php..._details&id=32

[Barry C]

Why bother? We know the TWS is good stuff, why risk using something else?

I know my friend who is a mechanic and runs race cars has started using TWS in an Integra race car, he says it's really good oil.

[shane@mbtech]

The castrol stuff is cheaper than that.

[cantfind1]

Well...have seen a lot of people converting to the Liqui Moly....it seems that it produces lower oil temps on track and also takes a shorter time for oil temps to cool on the run down lap....

I am not saying TWS is not good or the best am just saying that there may be something better out there now as this oil was designed for this car 10 years + ago....

[Barry C]

Originally Posted by cantfind1

Well...have seen a lot of people converting to the Liqui Moly....it seems that it produces lower oil temps on track and also takes a shorter time for oil temps to cool on the run down lap....

I am not saying TWS is not good or the best am just saying that there may be something better out there now as this oil was designed for this car 10 years + ago....

Fair point, if that was true I can see the logic but is it actually better or just pub talk? Hard to know I guess

[cantfind1]

Google it...check out the reviews...I know a lot of guys in Germany are starting to use it...

I find it funny that we all try to upgrade lots of things on our cars because the part that BMW used is not god enough...ie brakes, suspension, brake fluid, gearbox oil, etc etc

But when it comes to the oil they chose apparently BMW got it right??...

[Barry C]

Originally Posted by cantfind1

Google it...check out the reviews...I know a lot of guys in Germany are starting to use it...

I find it funny that we all try to upgrade lots of things on our cars because the part that BMW used is not god enough...ie brakes, suspension, brake fluid, gearbox oil, etc etc

But when it comes to the oil they chose apparently BMW got it right??...

Well to an extent but the consequences of using incorrect oil at high revs and high temps is obviously catastrophic, so people tend to be a lot slower to move away from the stuff the BMW recommend, and have tested for hundreds of thousands of miles.

The consequences of using aftermarket shocks and exhaust isn't going to wreck the car, most of the time anyway

[Barry C]

I just did do a quick google and there are some positive reviews, most of which seems to be pub talk with no real science behind peoples opinions but then I came across this...I'm sticking to TWS

Hey guys, updating this thread w/my recent personal experience...and I want to emphasize that this was just my very unscientific experience with this particular brand of oil (Lubro-Moly/Liqui-Moly). Thought that I would share my experience because I had completely opposite results vs. the OP.

Most people are aware of my recent build on here and that my car is no stranger to dyno work! Well, I decided to use Lubro-Moly after reading threads like this, not only because it was cheaper...but because performance seemed at least on par w/the factory stuff, if not even a little better.

During the course of dynoing, and even driving around on the street, we noticed that the oil temps seemed somewhat elevated vs. before the build. No problem, we just wrote if off to the top-end of the motor being a little tight??? We noticed it even more when dynoing, temps were always over 210*+ on the dyno where previoulsy they were usually either right at or slightly under 210*. For sh!ts & giggles, I went back to the TWS oil, and we did another round of dyno testing. Guess what??? Power was pretty much identical, but the engine oil temp was noticebly cooler, never going over 210*...same as before. (Dyno weather conditions were identical!) I can't say whether the temps. were 10*, 20*, or 30* cooler, because we were relying on the factory temp gauge, but I can say without a doubt, that the engine oil temps were cooler with the TWS!

So, what does this prove??? Absolutely nothing, because we were relying on the factory temp gauge, and didn't verify w/any independent equipment. But I will say this, I'm the last guy to stand here waiving a flag saying that you should only run TWS oil because that's what the BMW engineers called for...but I also now know which oil I will be using in my engine in the future.

Again, this totally unscientific test proves absolutely nothing and your results may vary, as mine did from the OP's...so use whichever oil you like. I know what my car prefers and what I'll be using in my personal vehicle!

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...=334927&page=7

[0-60Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Barry C

I just did do a quick google and there are some positive reviews, most of which seems to be pub talk with no real science behind peoples opinions but then I came across this...I'm sticking to TWS



http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showt...=334927&page=7

Yup agreed with above. Thats what happened to M3s who were using Liqui Moly here in Bahrain. I have always stuck to TWS and probably will.