Supercharged = SLOW

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Originally Posted by shimmy

Sorry, but as far as I can see the n/a camera car is quicker than the s/c silver m3.

Granted the s/c pulls 2-3 car lengths but a decent GT3 can do that on a CSL on as slow exit corner and is no more than +2-3/10s a lap. Otherwise the camera car is all over him.

+1

[83SY]

Im not a fan of Super charging an M3. Spend the money on tyres, suspension & Brakes & learn how to drive imo

[AlexGTT]

Modifying N/A cars to forced induction is all OK in the short term. However, expose them to extended trackwork and as Gorilla said, they soon generate heat and stresses the car is not designed to cope with. Not just engine but gearbox's, diff's and all sorts of other things start to go wrong.

Put a S/C CSL/M3 up against a CSL on one or two laps and it'll probably toast the std car. Give it death for 8 or 9 lap sessions all day at Spa in 25 degree ambients and see which car is still out there having fun at the end of the day?

Give me a bog standard drivetrain with stronger brakes, proper tyres, sorted suspension and good geo all day long.

[maxmeerkat]

^^^ You forgot to mention better oil cooling......

[AlexGTT]

Originally Posted by maxmeerkat

^^^ You forgot to mention better oil cooling......

Ah yeah, and oil cooling..................etc.

[magnust]

Originally Posted by AlexGTT

Modifying N/A cars to forced induction is all OK in the short term. However, expose them to extended trackwork and as Gorilla said, they soon generate heat and stresses the car is not designed to cope with. Not just engine but gearboxes, diffs and all sorts of other things start to go wrong.

Put a S/C CSL/M3 up against a CSL on one or two laps and it'll probably toast the std car. Give it death for 8 or 9 lap sessions all day at Spa in 25 degree ambients and see which car is still out there having fun at the end of the day?

Give me a bog standard drivetrain with stronger brakes, proper tyres, sorted suspension and good geo all day long.

Still, if you do upgrade the brakes, diff and surprisingly few other pieces a SC M3 or CSL will hold up surprisingly well to hard track use once sorted out. And in the end, having 100-150 extra hp is never *wrong*. But not all of us think it's worth the cost

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by magnust

Still, if you do upgrade the brakes, diff and surprisingly few other pieces a SC M3 or CSL will hold up surprisingly well to hard track use once sorted out. And in the end, having 100-150 extra hp is never *wrong*. But not all of us think it's worth the cost

So where are all these s/c m3 screaming around the tracks wiping the floor with us standard m3s?

[magnust]

Originally Posted by shimmy

So where are all these s/c m3 screaming around the tracks wiping the floor with us standard m3s?

There's a whole bunch of S/C M3's here in Sweden but all but like... ehhhrmm, two of them don't go to track days. I'm speculating here but I don't think that says S/C is a bad idea per se but more a reflection of different types of owners. Some owners are in to styling, some like competing with huge sound systems, some love to tinker with their car even more than driving it and some oddballs like to drive round and round all day on an asphalt patch.

[shimmy]

Originally Posted by magnust

There's a whole bunch of S/C M3's here in Sweden but all but like... ehhhrmm, two of them don't go to track days. I'm speculating here but I don't think that says S/C is a bad idea per se but more a reflection of different types of owners. Some owners are in to styling, some like competing with huge sound systems, some love to tinker with their car even more than driving it and some oddballs like to drive round and round all day on an asphalt patch.

Granted, but I'm lookin for some of the 'oddballs' to chase

[maxmeerkat]

These cars thrive in a cold environment like sweden.....Book me in for the next swedish track day shimmy.