50-60k mileage CSL - Safe buy?

Gibbo · 06-03-2013, 01:12 PM

Hi there

I am contemplating maybe, I repeat maybe returning to CSL ownership.

Really has to be silver grey, seems there is a lot of black ones for sale, some quite nice ones too, but I love SG.

So question is, this engine is one designed for track use and most CSL's have had plenty of track work.

So question is a 50-60k CSL a safe bet, do the engines suffer with mileage, loose power, explode etc, need rebuilds?

I'd plan on doing 5-6 track days per year, would run MPSS or Cups, get geo setup, AP brakes all round and probably go with supersprint exhaust setup.

So is a 50-60k mileage CSL OK and will it keep running fine and be happy to do 10-20 track days in my ownership?

I've seen them for sale with 120k on the clock, so speaks well for the engine, but of course such cars could have thrown huge bills.

Am I right to assume that a sub 60k mile example will cost less to put BMW extended warranty on and if so how much is it per year for sub 60k miles and over 60k miles?

sydown · 06-03-2013, 01:32 PM

The sub 60,000 mile extended BMW warranty is £80 a month for a fully comp policy with a zero excess, if you are extending an existing policy. Starting a new policy is more expensive and over 60,000 miles I think the price doubles.

Neil M · 06-03-2013, 01:59 PM

If you buy a car with and existing policy in place, you need to inform them of a change of ownership. When it comes time to renew the policy, you can either opt for the annual, or monthly payments.

If the car is approaching 60K my advice would be to opt for the Monthly payments as 'syndown' says it's £80 per month, providing under 60K.
However this will continue to be the case for as long as you keep the car without attracting any additional premium, irrespective of mileage

Straightsix · 06-03-2013, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil M

If you buy a car with and existing policy in place, you need to inform them of a change of ownership. When it comes time to renew the policy, you can either opt for the annual, or monthly payments.

If the car is approaching 60K my advice would be to opt for the Monthly payments as 'syndown' says it's £80 per month, providing under 60K.
However this will continue to be the case for as long as you keep the car without attracting any additional premium, irrespective of mileage

Actually this is not true

Whether u pay monthly or annually BMW review ur premiums every 12 months on policy anniversary. See your policy handbook if u don't believe me.
Maybe they have only changed like this recently.

Also warranty excludes track work. Not sure about modifications. Requires FBMWSH I believe.

Gibbo · 06-03-2013, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Straightsix

Actually this is not true

Whether u pay monthly or annually BMW review ur premiums every 12 months on policy anniversary. See your policy handbook if u don't believe me.
Maybe they have only changed like this recently.

Also warranty excludes track work. Not sure about modifications. Requires FBMWSH I believe.

So the warranty is void if you go on track?

Guess its a case of BMW cannot prove if the car failed on a public road or a track though, so pretty much a null argument?

englebert · 06-03-2013, 08:30 PM

Exactly. Unless you phoned them and said the car wasn't working; half of it was at Paddock Hill, the other half at Druids.

si.w · 06-03-2013, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibbo

Really has to be silver grey, seems there is a lot of black ones for sale, some quite nice ones too, but I love SG.

If you know of black ones for sale can you let me know, I am after a slower one but can only find SG's!

Gibbo · 06-03-2013, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by si.w

If you know of black ones for sale can you let me know, I am after a slower one but can only find SG's!

Nick Johnson has what looks like an exeptional black one for sale, only two owners and low miles which is rare for a CSL to have so few owners, looks like not much track work too.

I'd be seriously tempted by it, just don't want a black car!!

Bounce · 06-03-2013, 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibbo

Hi there

I am contemplating maybe, I repeat maybe returning to CSL ownership.

Really has to be silver grey, seems there is a lot of black ones for sale, some quite nice ones too, but I love SG.

So question is, this engine is one designed for track use and most CSL's have had plenty of track work.

So question is a 50-60k CSL a safe bet, do the engines suffer with mileage, loose power, explode etc, need rebuilds?

I'd plan on doing 5-6 track days per year, would run MPSS or Cups, get geo setup, AP brakes all round and probably go with supersprint exhaust setup.

So is a 50-60k mileage CSL OK and will it keep running fine and be happy to do 10-20 track days in my ownership?

I've seen them for sale with 120k on the clock, so speaks well for the engine, but of course such cars could have thrown huge bills.

Am I right to assume that a sub 60k mile example will cost less to put BMW extended warranty on and if so how much is it per year for sub 60k miles and over 60k miles?

A well looked after 60k mile car will serve you better than a 30k miler with a shit service history.Imho of course.

Bounce · 06-03-2013, 10:19 PM

Here are BMW /Mondial warranty prices,athough I think they have gone up a little this year..

BMW Warranty

Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £690
Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £835
Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £951

Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £612
Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £757
Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £873

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Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £590
Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £706
Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £798

Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £512
Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £628
Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £720

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Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £474
Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £557
Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £623

Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £396
Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £479
Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £545

For cars over 60k miles

Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1535
Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1926
Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £2235

Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1457
Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1848
Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £2157

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Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1266
Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1578
Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1826

Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1188
Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1500
Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1748

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Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £880
Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1081
Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1240

Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £802
Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1003
Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1162

06-03-2013, 01:12 PM	#1
Gibbo S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 69 Casino cash: $737	50-60k mileage CSL - Safe buy? Hi there I am contemplating maybe, I repeat maybe returning to CSL ownership. Really has to be silver grey, seems there is a lot of black ones for sale, some quite nice ones too, but I love SG. So question is, this engine is one designed for track use and most CSL's have had plenty of track work. So question is a 50-60k CSL a safe bet, do the engines suffer with mileage, loose power, explode etc, need rebuilds? I'd plan on doing 5-6 track days per year, would run MPSS or Cups, get geo setup, AP brakes all round and probably go with supersprint exhaust setup. So is a 50-60k mileage CSL OK and will it keep running fine and be happy to do 10-20 track days in my ownership? I've seen them for sale with 120k on the clock, so speaks well for the engine, but of course such cars could have thrown huge bills. Am I right to assume that a sub 60k mile example will cost less to put BMW extended warranty on and if so how much is it per year for sub 60k miles and over 60k miles?

06-03-2013, 01:59 PM	#3
Neil M Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Manchester Posts: 2,340 Casino cash: $19143	If you buy a car with and existing policy in place, you need to inform them of a change of ownership. When it comes time to renew the policy, you can either opt for the annual, or monthly payments. If the car is approaching 60K my advice would be to opt for the Monthly payments as 'syndown' says it's £80 per month, providing under 60K. However this will continue to be the case for as long as you keep the car without attracting any additional premium, irrespective of mileage __________________ “With the CSL, BMW have achieved The Ultimate Driving Machine” SG CSL '051'

06-03-2013, 08:30 PM	#6
englebert S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kent Posts: 397 Casino cash: $705	Exactly. Unless you phoned them and said the car wasn't working; half of it was at Paddock Hill, the other half at Druids. __________________ '03 SG CSL - SOLD Making do with a CSL replica, 1M and E90 M3.

06-03-2013, 01:32 PM	#2
sydown S3 - On the open road Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midlands Posts: 104 Casino cash: $1926	The sub 60,000 mile extended BMW warranty is £80 a month for a fully comp policy with a zero excess, if you are extending an existing policy. Starting a new policy is more expensive and over 60,000 miles I think the price doubles.

06-03-2013, 10:19 PM	#10
Bounce CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 7,057 Casino cash: $35793	Here are BMW /Mondial warranty prices,athough I think they have gone up a little this year.. BMW Warranty Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £690 Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £835 Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £951 Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £612 Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £757 Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £873 ------------------------------------------------- Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £590 Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £706 Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £798 Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £512 Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £628 Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £720 ------------------------------------------------- Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £474 Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £557 Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £623 Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £396 Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £479 Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £545 For cars over 60k miles Full Comp / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1535 Full Comp / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1926 Full Comp / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £2235 Full Comp / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1457 Full Comp / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1848 Full Comp / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £2157 ------------------------------------------------- Named Part / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £1266 Named Part / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1578 Named Part / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1826 Named Part / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £1188 Named Part / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1500 Named Part / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1748 ------------------------------------------------- Driveline / 250 Excess / Breakdown = £880 Driveline / 100 Excess / Breakdown = £1081 Driveline / 0 Excess / Breakdown = £1240 Driveline / 250 Excess / No Breakdown = £802 Driveline / 100 Excess / No Breakdown = £1003 Driveline / 0 Excess / No Breakdown = £1162