some other big one's

[david]

couldn't let mark Csl go along alone this it.... so here are some other "big one's...." with extra goodies going around with them...









what's you're next step mark...?

[Mark CSL]

Ha Ha Ha
cool kit David
I am only doing the brakes as the car handels great straight out the box.

Are they ap brakes without the name on them ??

[david]

No they are not registed as AP's, they are Twr/Fcarbon brakes, the front calipers are exactly the same as AP's shape, size, dimension, pads are the same, I've check it with an original AP caliper from a 356mm AP brake kit. the rear are same as willwood calipers, but not referenced as willwood.

I'm very satisfied of them, got a few hours on track done with that set up and till now, I haven't anything to say, I just changed compound of the pads, the first setup was not the best. since it's perfect to me

you can have them with of without logo on them originaly they are stamped like that and you have 4 ou 5 calipers colors choise

[Andyk]

Bloodyhell you do have big ones.

[Mark CSL]

Were they a better price than the APs ?
And how do you find the Bilsten kit ? is it the ps9 kit ? i had a ps9 kit on my e36 m3 and it was brill.

[david]

the brakes are 380x32 and 360x30 for around 2400£ by memory both sets including hardwares bolts, brakes lines....

the bilstein are 2008 models as PSS10 now PSS9 are not built anymore, just salling out the stock, and got theses for 1250£ including shipping

very nice mate,i take it you are using pagid pad's now,what pad's did you use first

[david]

the original pads were pagid RS4-2 bleu and black Twr pads for the rear, I'm on carbone lorraine pads now all around, an other world.

[M3ACS]

Very nice!!!! Did you get them from CA?

Can i ask why you didnt go down the KW route for the coilovers as they seem around the same price as the Bilstein?

[david]

yes, I got all stuff at CA, Roy as offered me good deal compared to other dealers for different setups of brakes kits.

I went on PSS10 because I was recommanded by my Bmw specialist he could have both for rather the same price, but told me to take the bilsteins for certain reasons:

- they are newer on the market and upgraded technicly compared to PSS9 - Kw V3 are the same sinces years and years and for the same price
- I could have theses 2008 PSS10 Csl version in 48h
- the PSS10 there is a reference for M3 E46 and an other for M3 Csl, they are different
- Kw V3 have a single reference for M3/Cs/Csl, and cars are not the same, and that look's important to me, that's where you see the little difference between bilstein making pushing to deliver a specific setup for each cars and kw making a average coilover for all M3

- if you want to refresh your coilover, Bilsteins can be done mostly everywhere, many shocks dealers or rally/track dealers or specialist have parts under a week or so and differents springs, oil viscosities, gaskets kits to rebuilt theses PSS9/10.
for Kw V3, it's rather limited and for a rebuilt of refresh, they need to go back to factory and that takes time.
Theres are very few dealers saling Kw around my country and none of them are offering the service to rebuilt them, they just send back to factory, but for how long..?
the guy who sold me the PSS told me if I need to refresh my PSS, I just need to phone a week before, he can order the parts and when arrived I just have to drop the car for a good day.
with kw I need to give him all coilover to send them back to the factory and it could take up to 4 weeks to get them back, without any warranty on time delivery

So even for the same price (by memory he offered me the Kw V3 15£ cheaper than the PSS10) and with his advices. I took option on theses PSS10.

An other point is that this guy lives just on the french/German border and drives several M3 nearly each weekend at the ring (he owns 4 or 5 M3 E36 and 2 M3 E46) and he as tried several setup for coilover and the best Quality/price he could offer me the PSS10 at 1250£ arrived at my door within 48h.

the proposed me Moton stuff, but that was damm expensive for what I drive the Csl on track just a few times per year, not each weekend..