Intrax 1k2 vs KW Clubsport

shane@mbtech · 01-04-2010, 10:29 PM

I have run the KW clubsport for a year now with no issues, but think I might try something different on the CSL this year.

I am thinking of trying the intrax, has anyone gone this route or vice-versa?

Thanks

raCedeSignLtd · 01-04-2010, 11:02 PM

I know what you could try different.................

a gt3

shane@mbtech · 01-04-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by raCedeSignLtd

I know what you could try different.................

a gt3

Stop it you, ive just finished off a nice bottle of wine, ill be easily led

I would get one, but I know I would not be driving as fast as I could if you get me.

raCedeSignLtd · 01-04-2010, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lawsy

Stop it you, ive just finished off a nice bottle of wine, ill be easily led

spoke to will the other day, think I've converted him from jap scrap to german quality engineering

mate you was like well on dee pace man

Curly · 01-04-2010, 11:30 PM

Iv'e had both first on my csl did 30,000 miles on the intrax with no probs,so easy to adjust you don't need a jack
had a M3 race-road car 08 to 09 on intrax doing 10,000 miles until total faiure on a front strut
09 in the same car kw clubsport not easy to adjust 2000 miles damping not as good as the intrax plus hazy is now had problems with the kw's and as far as i know kw clubsport dont carry a warranty the intrax does simpson's sorted the damaged intrax no quibbles.if i was buying again no question intrax with steel leg tubes.

**shimmy** · 01-04-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dontdobends

intrax with steel leg tubes.

dats what i got

_Nathan_ · 02-04-2010, 11:48 AM

Got the same as Shimmy on my race car, been on the car for 20k road miles before that then just stiffer spring rates and a rebuild ready for race duty.

Been very happy with them, next stop for me once I have more money will probably be the 4 way Titan XL version of the same. Damping is very good indeed.

**DazBlackCSL** · 02-04-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dontdobends

plus hazy is now had problems with the kw's and as far as i know kw clubsport dont carry a warranty

What issue's has Hazy had then John ?

_Nathan_ · 02-04-2010, 05:54 PM

Hazy said on another forum they'd had 2 failed dampers - no idea what the nature of those was though.

You can change the spring rate with 1k2s without revalving, they have a huge range of damping adjustment. You can also choose from Ali, steel or titanium bodies.

1k2 have a single adjuster which moves bump and rebound along a pre-defined damping curve, the ability to separately alter rebound, slow bump and fast bump comes further up the model range and to be honest is more than I think is required for trackdays, and for those of us who can't yet drive the car to 100% consistantly (myself included). In my opinion it is miles easier to mess up a set up with more options, with 1K2 you can quickly make changes with no Allan keys and are less likely to end up with a clown car

I assume your more extreme hybrid setup isn't under warranty either daz?

Curly · 02-04-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DazBlackCSL

What issue's has Hazy had then John ?

im not quite sure daz.. like nathan, i spotted it on another forum - not had a chance to speak to hazy about it. im definitely not an expert but when i had the intrax i had plenty of help from simpsons in regards to the set up, and fine tuned the springs that would work for me. with the kw club sport that raced in the csl cup i felt the springs were a bit hard and we were promised with this kit to have loads of expert and advice at each round. for me, it never really materialised - which was disappointing, because most rounds i was working on my own and had little time to experiment with set up. at the donnington round the kw suspension expert turned out to only speak german

plus i found the kw adjusters were a needle and a small alan key, just no where near as easy to use as intrax clicker adjusters. i just found out that out of the slower corners that the intrax hooked up and gripped better for me than the kw. and also with the intrax i could ride the curbs without the car being pitched, and when i did have a failure with the intrax the boss man henk marvin (not him with the 6 string) give me a call and was very apologetic for his product failure and said it would be sorted straight away. for me i can only go off my experience, and was very pleased with the intrax product service, and set up information.

01-04-2010, 10:29 PM	#1
shane@mbtech CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: warrington Posts: 5,419 Casino cash: $19783	Intrax 1k2 vs KW Clubsport I have run the KW clubsport for a year now with no issues, but think I might try something different on the CSL this year. I am thinking of trying the intrax, has anyone gone this route or vice-versa? Thanks

02-04-2010, 11:48 AM	#7
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	Got the same as Shimmy on my race car, been on the car for 20k road miles before that then just stiffer spring rates and a rebuild ready for race duty. Been very happy with them, next stop for me once I have more money will probably be the 4 way Titan XL version of the same. Damping is very good indeed. __________________ Nathan

02-04-2010, 05:54 PM	#9
_Nathan_ Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 2,099 Casino cash: $13060	Hazy said on another forum they'd had 2 failed dampers - no idea what the nature of those was though. You can change the spring rate with 1k2s without revalving, they have a huge range of damping adjustment. You can also choose from Ali, steel or titanium bodies. 1k2 have a single adjuster which moves bump and rebound along a pre-defined damping curve, the ability to separately alter rebound, slow bump and fast bump comes further up the model range and to be honest is more than I think is required for trackdays, and for those of us who can't yet drive the car to 100% consistantly (myself included). In my opinion it is miles easier to mess up a set up with more options, with 1K2 you can quickly make changes with no Allan keys and are less likely to end up with a clown car I assume your more extreme hybrid setup isn't under warranty either daz? __________________ Nathan

01-04-2010, 11:02 PM	#2
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01-04-2010, 11:30 PM	#5
Curly S5, Sport On, DSC M-track Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: madchester Posts: 1,153 Casino cash: $5838	Iv'e had both first on my csl did 30,000 miles on the intrax with no probs,so easy to adjust you don't need a jack had a M3 race-road car 08 to 09 on intrax doing 10,000 miles until total faiure on a front strut 09 in the same car kw clubsport not easy to adjust 2000 miles damping not as good as the intrax plus hazy is now had problems with the kw's and as far as i know kw clubsport dont carry a warranty the intrax does simpson's sorted the damaged intrax no quibbles.if i was buying again no question intrax with steel leg tubes.