Michelin Cup Differences?

karbonkid · 25-01-2010, 11:24 AM

Im aware of the Cup+ being designed for the more wet conditions, but whats the visual differences between the Cup/ Cup NO/ Cup+?

**shimmy** · 25-01-2010, 12:24 PM

there are two types of Michelin Cup tyre which have two different patterns and. rumoured. compounds;

Michelin Cup and Michelin Cup+

You can easily see the difference in the tyre pattern below(Cup left, Cup+ right). The Cup has a dual band thread and compaund where the outer is there for dry traction and the inner for wet traction. You can see the Cup+ has more grooves and therefore less rubber surface than a comparative Cup tyre. Also the extra grooves give more tyre movement and hence less heat and more lateral wear but better wet grip.

I have not seen it confirmed but the Cup+ is rumoured to have not as grippy rubber compounds (more akin to PS2).

The N0 or N1 prefixes just show they are Porsche Homologated tyres and ok for use on funny cars with big weights at the back! Strange thing is that michelin dont seem to add the + to the tyre when they list the N0 and N1 tyres even though they are Cup+ pattern, look at the stickers on the Cup pictures above, both just say Cup!

http://www.michelin.co.uk/michelinuk...312100263.html

karbonkid · 25-01-2010, 12:46 PM

10 out of 10 Shimmeister!

Worth buying a set of 'going cheap' 235/35/19 Cups NO?

**shimmy** · 25-01-2010, 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karbonkid

10 out of 10 Shimmeister!

Worth buying a set of 'going cheap' 235/35/19 Cups NO?

I don't use Cup+ as they are a compromise but whether they are Cup or Cup+ if they are a bargain go for it.

**alexk** · 25-01-2010, 06:48 PM

cup+ are gay tires

thank you please

PS : I am only joking

Highmast · 25-01-2010, 07:34 PM

l'll give you impression after run both set cup and cup+, i'll run in mars with cup at dijon (a killertrack for your left outside tyre) and i have found a second set cup+ to try, maybe on my car for spa when first will be dead...
lucky, i will use

tyres during a meeting with a lot of

...

For cup, michelin explain you can re-cut them for wet conditions. hence, i'm not sure cup+ is specially design for wet or similar but sure design for porsche, a car with less weight on the front...

i don't know exactly how the result will be on my CSL, but one thing is that it's easier to find few used tyres. more, porsche wear out flat not only on the outside like our bmw.

s.mac · 25-01-2010, 07:34 PM

I gave kwik fit a call today to see if cups were part of their, buy all 4 and get 25% off

they weren't

25-01-2010, 11:24 AM	#1
karbonkid S6, Sport On, Traction Off Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sussex Posts: 1,912 Casino cash: $10231	Michelin Cup Differences? Im aware of the Cup+ being designed for the more wet conditions, but whats the visual differences between the Cup/ Cup NO/ Cup+? __________________

25-01-2010, 12:24 PM	#2
shimmy CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Uk Posts: 14,646 Casino cash: $43909	there are two types of Michelin Cup tyre which have two different patterns and. rumoured. compounds; Michelin Cup and Michelin Cup+ You can easily see the difference in the tyre pattern below(Cup left, Cup+ right). The Cup has a dual band thread and compaund where the outer is there for dry traction and the inner for wet traction. You can see the Cup+ has more grooves and therefore less rubber surface than a comparative Cup tyre. Also the extra grooves give more tyre movement and hence less heat and more lateral wear but better wet grip. I have not seen it confirmed but the Cup+ is rumoured to have not as grippy rubber compounds (more akin to PS2). The N0 or N1 prefixes just show they are Porsche Homologated tyres and ok for use on funny cars with big weights at the back! Strange thing is that michelin dont seem to add the + to the tyre when they list the N0 and N1 tyres even though they are Cup+ pattern, look at the stickers on the Cup pictures above, both just say Cup! http://www.michelin.co.uk/michelinuk...312100263.html Last edited by shimmy; 25-01-2010 at 12:30 PM.

25-01-2010, 12:46 PM	#3
karbonkid S6, Sport On, Traction Off Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Sussex Posts: 1,912 Casino cash: $10231	10 out of 10 Shimmeister! Worth buying a set of 'going cheap' 235/35/19 Cups NO? __________________

25-01-2010, 06:48 PM	#5
alexk Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,785 Casino cash: $29970	cup+ are gay tires thank you please PS : I am only joking __________________ www.clubcsl.com - I am a BMW Motorsport fan ! My youtube channel is here

25-01-2010, 07:34 PM	#6
Highmast S2 - Picking it up Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Behind the Red Line Posts: 50 Casino cash: $865	l'll give you impression after run both set cup and cup+, i'll run in mars with cup at dijon (a killertrack for your left outside tyre) and i have found a second set cup+ to try, maybe on my car for spa when first will be dead... lucky, i will use tyres during a meeting with a lot of... For cup, michelin explain you can re-cut them for wet conditions. hence, i'm not sure cup+ is specially design for wet or similar but sure design for porsche, a car with less weight on the front... i don't know exactly how the result will be on my CSL, but one thing is that it's easier to find few used tyres. more, porsche wear out flat not only on the outside like our bmw. __________________ Hervé ///M Gaz & Metal, Sound & Power..CSL

25-01-2010, 07:34 PM	#7
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	I gave kwik fit a call today to see if cups were part of their, buy all 4 and get 25% off they weren't