Best Equipment for Track and Road Use?

Bealo · 15-09-2009, 12:43 PM

As i'm getting into Trackdays more and more i have been thinking what aeras can i improve my car in.

I defo want to get some brake cooling ducts as i have managed to burn the paint off my front AP's which now look silver!!!! Turner motorsport do some and i will look to pick a set up from the States next time i'm over there. ( far cheaper than buying the same set from Simpsons!)

My next dilema is what is the best bushing setup for a road/track car? At the minute i have standard bushes all round apart from Poly RTAB. I'm not to worried about ride comfort as i don't really do that many road miles.

I know that there are limiting kits and solid bushes etc but what i don't know is what benifits each type has. I know i could phone different tuners to get there opinions but i would prefer to ask you lot and especsially the racers, track day addicts who have already done this .

Thanks Guys.

**glendog74** · 15-09-2009, 01:03 PM

I had considered brake ducts. Simpson asked if i was getting heat issues with the APs to which i said 'no' - they said 'don't bother then'... Most ducts i looked at would probably only fit to the rear of the OEM wheel hubs iirc, and may have needed some bastardisation for APs?

With regards to braking judder or noise, i used to get that if i trail braked a lot on track. Now i 'stomp' on the brakes more and am better able to modulate braking force with the APs - my brakes rarely complain now.

RTAB limiter kit was the one of the most effective and cheapest mods that i did to my car - really noticeable handling improvement on turn-in on track. Best thing about them is that you keep your OEM CSL bushes (which are improved over the earlier shite M3 items) and therefore retain some ride comfort. I personally wouldn't use urethane bushes and definitely not billet items as you will only speed up the rate at which chassis weakness/cracking will occur... We will all get it eventually of course! I might learn welding now so that i'm ready when the time comes!

I have found recently that my -2.5 degree camber is not enough for regular track work and have worn my front Cup tyres prematurely on the outer edges! I will try -3 degrees now.

Rob.

Bealo · 15-09-2009, 01:15 PM

Good point regarding the ducts fitting with the AP's. I would hope they would.

I must have a heavy right foot as i haven't seen another set as bad as mine. Shimmy is a demon late braker but his are ok. I wonder if i'm not cooling them down enough???????? I usually do one cool down lap.

i'm glad you have found the same as me regarding the the front camber. I'm looking forward to getting mine adjusted when i get back next time.

csl_mba · 15-09-2009, 01:42 PM

Right foot braking... pfft whats that all about

Yep stomp on the buggers and catch em by suprise

Thorney · 15-09-2009, 02:12 PM

Whats on the car at the moment? Ref bushes, go for poly bushes if you really want but its a lot of money (lot of labour) and really only worthwhile if you're racing.

windy · 15-09-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney

Whats on the car at the moment? Ref bushes, go for poly bushes if you really want but its a lot of money (lot of labour) and really only worthwhile if you're racing.

Good to see you on here John - no time to reply to my PM about the suspension though?

Bealo · 15-09-2009, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thorney

Whats on the car at the moment? Ref bushes, go for poly bushes if you really want but its a lot of money (lot of labour) and really only worthwhile if you're racing.

Standard BMW bushes all round apart from RTAB i got from you

15-09-2009, 12:43 PM	#1
Bealo Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Everywhere. Posts: 2,540 Casino cash: $12738	Best Equipment for Track and Road Use? As i'm getting into Trackdays more and more i have been thinking what aeras can i improve my car in. I defo want to get some brake cooling ducts as i have managed to burn the paint off my front AP's which now look silver!!!! Turner motorsport do some and i will look to pick a set up from the States next time i'm over there. ( far cheaper than buying the same set from Simpsons!) My next dilema is what is the best bushing setup for a road/track car? At the minute i have standard bushes all round apart from Poly RTAB. I'm not to worried about ride comfort as i don't really do that many road miles. I know that there are limiting kits and solid bushes etc but what i don't know is what benifits each type has. I know i could phone different tuners to get there opinions but i would prefer to ask you lot and especsially the racers, track day addicts who have already done this . Thanks Guys.

15-09-2009, 01:03 PM	#2
glendog74 CSL Register Uber-poster! Tetris Champion! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Cornwall Posts: 8,861 Casino cash: $32299	I had considered brake ducts. Simpson asked if i was getting heat issues with the APs to which i said 'no' - they said 'don't bother then'... Most ducts i looked at would probably only fit to the rear of the OEM wheel hubs iirc, and may have needed some bastardisation for APs? With regards to braking judder or noise, i used to get that if i trail braked a lot on track. Now i 'stomp' on the brakes more and am better able to modulate braking force with the APs - my brakes rarely complain now. RTAB limiter kit was the one of the most effective and cheapest mods that i did to my car - really noticeable handling improvement on turn-in on track. Best thing about them is that you keep your OEM CSL bushes (which are improved over the earlier shite M3 items) and therefore retain some ride comfort. I personally wouldn't use urethane bushes and definitely not billet items as you will only speed up the rate at which chassis weakness/cracking will occur... We will all get it eventually of course! I might learn welding now so that i'm ready when the time comes! I have found recently that my -2.5 degree camber is not enough for regular track work and have worn my front Cup tyres prematurely on the outer edges! I will try -3 degrees now. Rob. __________________ Cha'mone Mother F**ker!

15-09-2009, 01:42 PM	#4
csl_mba S5, Sport Off, DSC M-track Hexxagon Champion! Breakout Champion! Bowling Champion! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 633 Casino cash: $1209	Right foot braking... pfft whats that all about Yep stomp on the buggers and catch em by suprise __________________ Will wash your car for Casino Cash

15-09-2009, 02:12 PM	#5
Thorney S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 469 Casino cash: $3876	Whats on the car at the moment? Ref bushes, go for poly bushes if you really want but its a lot of money (lot of labour) and really only worthwhile if you're racing. __________________ http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk

15-09-2009, 01:15 PM	#3
Bealo Driving it like I nicked it Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Everywhere. Posts: 2,540 Casino cash: $12738	Good point regarding the ducts fitting with the AP's. I would hope they would. I must have a heavy right foot as i haven't seen another set as bad as mine. Shimmy is a demon late braker but his are ok. I wonder if i'm not cooling them down enough???????? I usually do one cool down lap. i'm glad you have found the same as me regarding the the front camber. I'm looking forward to getting mine adjusted when i get back next time.