Brake Query

fergusgo · 24-06-2009, 10:32 PM

Brakes are done - after a European jaunt taking in some of the Alpine passes, and need front discs and pads. Brakes appeared ok before i left, (car only done 22k) but at the bottom of Stelvio of all places brakes went, and was pretty disappointed that the standard OME couldn’t take modest(ish) punishment.

I am looking to see if there are any better alternatives to the OEM without spending a fortune. I have just forked out for a set of APs for my (shared) Impreza track car (don’t ask!!!!) and so am looking to keep the OEM callipers. I have had a reasonable quote from local BM dealer for £440 odd for discs and pads fitted inc vat but was wondering if anyone has experience of non OEM discs and pads for standard calipers.

I spoke with Paul at coordsport.com re performance friction pads but he did not think that they did a 345x28. Do any other manufacturers and are they aftermarket discs worth the extra cash over the OME?
Also wondering if it is advisable to perhaps just go for the OME discs but put better pads on it. Has anyone gone down this route eg Ferodo ds2500 or performance friction?

Finally what brake fluid would be recommended - car currently on standard dot 4. is dot 5.1 preferable? (Think the boiling brake fluid was one of the main problems)

As always thanks in advance for your help and advice and special thanks to whopwop for the passenger laps at the ring - very entertaining!
A couple of photos...

**Mark CSL** · 24-06-2009, 11:21 PM

The standard discs are good just upgrade the hoses to braided ones and some dot 5.1 and EBC redstuff pads will do the job

fergusgo · 24-06-2009, 11:44 PM

Cheers for that. Would you suggest any place in particular I should go for the braided hoses?

karbonkid · 25-06-2009, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fergusgo

Cheers for that. Would you suggest any place in particular I should go for the braided hoses?

Try Thorney:

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/p...1342_1687_1689

**Mark CSL** · 25-06-2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fergusgo

Cheers for that. Would you suggest any place in particular I should go for the braided hoses?

Ebay is a good place to start cost about £50
I get my EBC redstuff pads from livinston auto parts

Maxcess sell 5.1 for about £3.50 a 1/2 liter you will need a liter to change all the fluid

Ebay link £48.95
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-M3-E46-Goo...3%3A1|294%3A50

whopwop · 25-06-2009, 04:10 PM

Hi Ferguso,
Glad you made it home ok and that you guys enjoyed the laps.

It sounds to me like the brake fluid was your biggest problem, If the car is mainly going to get road use then O.E.M. discs, dot 5 fluid, braided hoses and Ferrodo pads will be more than ok.
Have you considered the BMW Motorsport calipers at all, cheaper than AP.

ps, was looking at your last photo thinking ....there is a csl with wheels like mine, how come I didnt see it !!!

s.mac · 26-06-2009, 10:33 AM

nice pics, I've sent you a pm

24-06-2009, 10:32 PM	#1
fergusgo Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 19 Casino cash: $2066	Brake Query Brakes are done - after a European jaunt taking in some of the Alpine passes, and need front discs and pads. Brakes appeared ok before i left, (car only done 22k) but at the bottom of Stelvio of all places brakes went, and was pretty disappointed that the standard OME couldn’t take modest(ish) punishment. I am looking to see if there are any better alternatives to the OEM without spending a fortune. I have just forked out for a set of APs for my (shared) Impreza track car (don’t ask!!!!) and so am looking to keep the OEM callipers. I have had a reasonable quote from local BM dealer for £440 odd for discs and pads fitted inc vat but was wondering if anyone has experience of non OEM discs and pads for standard calipers. I spoke with Paul at coordsport.com re performance friction pads but he did not think that they did a 345x28. Do any other manufacturers and are they aftermarket discs worth the extra cash over the OME? Also wondering if it is advisable to perhaps just go for the OME discs but put better pads on it. Has anyone gone down this route eg Ferodo ds2500 or performance friction? Finally what brake fluid would be recommended - car currently on standard dot 4. is dot 5.1 preferable? (Think the boiling brake fluid was one of the main problems) As always thanks in advance for your help and advice and special thanks to whopwop for the passenger laps at the ring - very entertaining! A couple of photos...

24-06-2009, 11:21 PM	#2
Mark CSL CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Scotland Posts: 8,777 Casino cash: $42229	The standard discs are good just upgrade the hoses to braided ones and some dot 5.1 and EBC redstuff pads will do the job __________________ www.procarkits.co.uk

25-06-2009, 04:10 PM	#6
whopwop S5 - Full Throttle Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Posts: 277 Casino cash: $3575	Hi Ferguso, Glad you made it home ok and that you guys enjoyed the laps. It sounds to me like the brake fluid was your biggest problem, If the car is mainly going to get road use then O.E.M. discs, dot 5 fluid, braided hoses and Ferrodo pads will be more than ok. Have you considered the BMW Motorsport calipers at all, cheaper than AP. ps, was looking at your last photo thinking ....there is a csl with wheels like mine, how come I didnt see it !!! __________________ RASEN IST OUT I cant spell and I dont give a fuch

24-06-2009, 11:44 PM	#3
fergusgo Wonky 'L' after Washing Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 19 Casino cash: $2066	Cheers for that. Would you suggest any place in particular I should go for the braided hoses?

26-06-2009, 10:33 AM	#7
s.mac CSL Register Uber-poster! Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,247 Casino cash: $15600	nice pics, I've sent you a pm