What do you think about the M3 GTS?

[motorsv8]

do you think that the M3 GTS is a good choice?

[CraigMillwardCroft]

Its nice but not as good as the CSL

[Mike R]

Given the cost and power, it should really be faster - only 2 seconds a lap better around the Ring than the CSL says it all really (and explains why the CSL was the only M-car not present at the launch of the GTS - even BMW didn't want the comparison ).

[_Nathan_]

10 laps of any track as they left the factory and GTS would be gone. It is a much better engineered car out the box, gearbox cooler, proper suspension, proper brakes. If anything the fact that it is only 2 seconds quicker give credence to the rumours that the 7:50 csl wasn't standard

[3wheels3]

Would love to see GTS on track. What other credence has that new rumour got?

Really wanted to love a GTS but seems a disappoint to me after watching some reviews. Only vbh seemed to rave about it.

[Yanto]

I'd have one a heartbeat..

Was fence sitting when they came out, but I've fallen for them.

Though would have a CRT over this. Coolest car BMW made of late.

[_Nathan_]

Originally Posted by 3wheels3

Would love to see GTS on track. What other credence has that new rumour got?

Really wanted to love a GTS but seems a disappoint to me after watching some reviews. Only vbh seemed to rave about it.

Not a new rumour, as old as the lap time itself. Legend has it that it was on ohlins...

[Mike R]

Originally Posted by _Nathan_

10 laps of any track as they left the factory and GTS would be gone. It is a much better engineered car out the box, gearbox cooler, proper suspension, proper brakes. If anything the fact that it is only 2 seconds quicker give credence to the rumours that the 7:50 csl wasn't standard

If that is the case, it seems strange that BMW didn't want the comparison with the CSL - if the lap time setter was better than normal CSLs, they would have no reason to preclude a normal CSL from attending the GTS launch .

I think that would be very unlikely to have been the case (other than the factory upgrade pads), as the egg on face if it was found out would be highly embarrassing and something BMW would not be able to risk.

I'm no Ring expert, but I could easily do a sub 8 minute lap BTG in my own car (with no traffic), so Horst Von Saumer's time of 7.50 is not unbelievable. I'm sure it has been said that someone off here has done a 7.50 BTG, which is around 8.10 to 8.15 for a full lap - not too far off the original time to doubt it IMO.

[_Nathan_]

Originally Posted by Mike R

If that is the case, it seems strange that BMW didn't want the comparison with the CSL - if the lap time setter was better than normal CSLs, they would have no reason to preclude a normal CSL from attending the GTS launch .

I think that would be very unlikely to have been the case (other than the factory upgrade pads), as the egg on face if it was found out would be highly embarrassing and something BMW would not be able to risk.

I'm no Ring expert, but I could easily do a sub 8 minute lap BTG in my own car (with no traffic), so Horst Von Saumer's time of 7.50 is not unbelievable. I'm sure it has been said that someone off here has done a 7.50 BTG, which is around 8.10 to 8.15 for a full lap - not too far off the original time to doubt it IMO.

Not heard of anyone doing a 7:25 BTG in a completely standard car even with the proper flying start, 25 seconds over a lap is a lifetime, even on a long track. Most of the guys doing 7:40ish BTG laps have dampers, brakes, weight removed, wider front wheels etc.

Anyway, my point stands, over multiple laps a standard GTS would leave a standard CSL for dead IMO, modified further still.

E92 has much more potential than e46, just expensive to unlock it.



Standard engine, 7:22 full lap...

[devam]

Their is a nice review of the gts if you Google Chris Harris on cars.